Selling car to a chap from Ireland - payment issues
Selling car to a chap from Ireland - payment issues
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amirzed

Original Poster:

1,789 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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People of PH give me some advice, got a guy wanting to look at my car - hes from Ireland and banks with the Bank of Ireland, he mentioned bringing a draft or getting a transfer done, but the problem is that there are no BOI branches in the UK, or certainly none where we are....

So does anybody know what the easiest way would be for this guy to buy my car (assuming we agree a deal)... Are there any UK banks affiliated with the BOI and could therefore ensure a speedy transfer? Or should I get him to do an internet transfer and hope for the best?

Any advice appreciated....

Greengecko

594 posts

178 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Get the chap to phone his bank the day before and speak to the fraud department, notifying them of the payment. Providing he does that an internet transfer will be fine, make sure to phone you bank just to confirm the money is in and cannot be reversed.

jumpingjackdan

293 posts

162 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Be very careful. Make sure the money is sitting in your account before you give him the keys. Don't take any excuses. Trust no one.

Terminator X

20,972 posts

235 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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I bought a car from a chap in NI, only option was a bankers draft which I handed to him and then drove off in the car. Sometimes trust is your only option.

TX.

jumpingjackdan

293 posts

162 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Terminator X said:
I bought a car from a chap in NI, only option was a bankers draft which I handed to him and then drove off in the car. Sometimes trust is your only option.

TX.
Maybe if you are talking about a £5 toy car, but would you really let someone drive off in a car worth £10k on the basis of trust, given you have just met them? If you are, you are far braver than me.

Terminator X

20,972 posts

235 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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The car I bought was 8.5 grand.

TX.

jumpingjackdan

293 posts

162 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Terminator X said:
The car I bought was 8.5 grand.

TX.
I don't trust anyone, lol. Banker drafts can be forged, I know some traders don't accept them now. Hats off if you are confident enough to trade purely on trust but not me.

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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International Bankers' drafts are available. Pop into your bank to check whether they're happy to accept for the value you want, and what security of payment you have in case it goes wrong.

International trade always has a bit of to-ing and fro-ing on this sort of thing. Generally it's built on trust built up over years. If you were a business, it's likely you would demand up-front payment but that's not an option. Your best bet is to ask for at least a portion of the purchase price in cash, which you can take to the bank with him in tow, and get it paid into your account. That at least gives you some money in the bank.

amirzed

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1,789 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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This gets more complicated by the day.

All he can do is transfer the money, stay overnight at a hotel and then take the car the next day when the moneys confirmed! Apparently theres nowhere in the UK where he can get 10k plus out of his BOI account to give to me and then drive off free and clear!

Seems he still wants the car though...

Grey Ghost

4,611 posts

251 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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amirzed said:
This gets more complicated by the day.

All he can do is transfer the money, stay overnight at a hotel and then take the car the next day when the moneys confirmed! Apparently theres nowhere in the UK where he can get 10k plus out of his BOI account to give to me and then drive off free and clear!

Seems he still wants the car though...
Agree a date for him to come over to collect the car. Tell your bank to expect the money the day before or on the day he wants to collect the car and have your bank confirm the transfer can't be reversed, preferably in writing. Also ask when they will expect to see cleared funds in your account based on where the money is coming from - ask him to give you BOI branch details where money is coming from and advise your bank of this. Book him into a Premier Inn local to you, check the cash is in your account the next day and complete the deal.

Not too complicated but will require a little bit of planning and at least he has to transfer the money first and not expect to receive the car keys and paperwork until you have seen cleared funds in your account. Will require a bit of trust from both of you but he has to send money and understand it has to clear in your account for him to gain ownership of car.

SLCZ3

1,295 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Can he not bring the money, cash that is, with him??idea

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

214 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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SLCZ3 said:
Can he not bring the money, cash that is, with him??idea
That's what I'd do. And, indeed, have done - for amounts significantly higher than that mentioned by the OP.

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

187 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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SLCZ3 said:
Can he not bring the money, cash that is, with him??idea
Euros?

amirzed

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1,789 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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I'm fine with paper but I don't think this guy feels comfortable bringing all that money over from NI.

nick s

1,372 posts

248 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Sold my Elise to a French guy. He came over on public transport the whole way, with 11,000 euros in his backpack! eek

LooneyTunes

9,511 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Can he be persuaded to open an account with a bank that has branches in both NI and England?

Pay money in in NI and withdraw over the counter at your local branch?

Edit: just realised he's in ROI not NI? Might not work...

Edited by LooneyTunes on Wednesday 28th August 12:04

Froomee

1,503 posts

200 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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LooneyTunes said:
Can he be persuaded to open an account with a bank that has branches in both NI and England?

Pay money in in NI and withdraw over the counter at your local branch?
+1 to this.

BJG1

5,966 posts

243 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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amirzed said:
I'm fine with paper but I don't think this guy feels comfortable bringing all that money over from NI.
I'd say sod it, he needs to bring cash. Gotta look out for you and it's probably not worth the hassle otherwise

Mattygooner

5,304 posts

235 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Does he keep talking about Dirty Trees?

Isnt Bank of Ireland part of the old HBOS or Lloyds now?

Cant remember if they were sold off as part of the carnage with Irish Banks and Property Debt. If they are, it might be worth having a conversation with Lloyds over here.

Mattygooner

5,304 posts

235 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Scrap that, they arent, but they do have a UK site and a special deposits section, perhaps have a chat with them.