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7 posts

159 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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For some reason I've got an itch to sell my '57 plate E61 530d MSport, which is fast, efficient, good looking and well specced, for something older, thirstier and probably not as well made.

So, X350 XJR or Benz CLS V12?

Both can be had for around £8k which is where I'm looking, both look the same on fuel.

Any opinions?!

...Oh yeah.... I do 15 - 20k miles a year....

Toaster Pilot

14,867 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Idiot.

Do it! hehe

krisdelta

4,673 posts

232 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Toaster Pilot said:
Idiot.

Do it! hehe
+1, something for the frivilous purchase thread?

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

171 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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I'm a big Jag fan but I don't think I could choose a V8 over a V12.

epom

15,098 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Toaster Pilot said:
Idiot.

Do it! hehe
haha smile

so called

9,160 posts

240 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Bads said:
For some reason I've got an itch to sell my '57 plate E61 530d MSport, which is fast, efficient, good looking and well specced, for something older, thirstier and probably not as well made.

So, X350 XJR or Benz CLS V12?

Both can be had for around £8k which is where I'm looking, both look the same on fuel.

Any opinions?!

...Oh yeah.... I do 15 - 20k miles a year....
I was thinking of an XJR last Christmas as a change from many years of TVR's for the long drives I do to Germany.
In the end I bought a CLS 320 CDI.
I wasnt particularly thinking about fuel economy having acceptad ca. 26mph from the various TVR's and was thinking similarly to you.
When I test drove the CLS I was realy impressed with the deisel engine performance and so bought it.

Now the fact that when I leave home and set the cruise to whatever speed limit of whichever country and turn up at my apartment having driven 1200km on the single 80 litre tank of deisel has made me feel I got the best of both worlds.

Bads

Original Poster:

7 posts

159 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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I was all out for an XJR, buy my mate threw the CLS factor into the mix. All of a sudden, this seemed a way more sensible(?!) option in terms of having a car which might stand some chance of not failing spectacularly.

Also, as another mate pointed out, I've probably lulled myself into a false sense of car-reliability security. My last 4 motors have been Saab 9000 Turbo, VW 1.8T, two BMW 530ds..... all of which have performed admirably.

10 Year old, British made monster? What could possibly go wrong! By the sounds of it, I'd have to get used to the concept of "rust" again, which is a bit 70s for my liking :-)


VEA

4,792 posts

232 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Bads said:
For some reason I've got an itch to sell my '57 plate E61 530d MSport, which is fast, efficient, good looking and well specced, for something older, thirstier and probably not as well made.

So, X350 XJR or Benz CLS V12?

Both can be had for around £8k which is where I'm looking, both look the same on fuel.

Any opinions?!

...Oh yeah.... I do 15 - 20k miles a year....
Greatest PH first post ever?

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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VEA said:
Bads said:
For some reason I've got an itch to sell my '57 plate E61 530d MSport, which is fast, efficient, good looking and well specced, for something older, thirstier and probably not as well made.

So, X350 XJR or Benz CLS V12?

Both can be had for around £8k which is where I'm looking, both look the same on fuel.

Any opinions?!

...Oh yeah.... I do 15 - 20k miles a year....
Greatest PH first post ever?
The lad will do well on here.

The Big G

1,004 posts

199 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Similar to me, I sold a 730d and purchased a late BMW 840 sport. I cover 20-25k a year in mine. Changed eight months ago and love the car. A V10 or V12 next for me! Just be wary of big bills from either, more so possibly the merc, lovely looking machines though. I almost gave in when a cl65 amg came on the market above my budget but had to try to be sensible!

Both will be lovely cars, make sure you get the one you like the most. You will be spending a lot of time in it as well as a lot of money on maintainence. This is all easily forgiven if you turn round and catch sneeky glimpses of your car when walking anywhere near it. You have to like it first and formost, even if it is not the best tool for the job.

Bads

Original Poster:

7 posts

159 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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VEA said:
Greatest PH first post ever?
beer


Bads

Original Poster:

7 posts

159 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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The Big G said:
Similar to me, I sold a 730d and purchased a late BMW 840 sport. I cover 20-25k a year in mine. Changed eight months ago and love the car. A V10 or V12 next for me! Just be wary of big bills from either, more so possibly the merc, lovely looking machines though. I almost gave in when a cl65 amg came on the market above my budget but had to try to be sensible!

Both will be lovely cars, make sure you get the one you like the most. You will be spending a lot of time in it as well as a lot of money on maintainence. This is all easily forgiven if you turn round and catch sneeky glimpses of your car when walking anywhere near it. You have to like it first and formost, even if it is not the best tool for the job.
Thanks for sharing your experience, glad I'm not the only one considering bucking the trend smile

My calculations show that broadly, when you factor in purchase price, finance, tax, fuel price and MPG, running an XJR works out about the same per year as my current BM. This doesn't include servicing which I've (naively?) assume would be broadly similar... obviously you can't forecast massive component failure either!


afrochicken

1,166 posts

240 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Bads said:
Benz CLS V12?
I didn't think there was a Mercedes CLS with a V12, apart from the Brabus Rocket.

Presumably you mean the CL?

Bads

Original Poster:

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159 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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afrochicken said:
I didn't think there was a Mercedes CLS with a V12, apart from the Brabus Rocket.

Presumably you mean the CL?
You're right, it's a V8 - my mistake. This choice of a MB CLS was the result of a pub conversation..... either way, I'll take a 5l V8

miln0039

2,013 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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afrochicken said:
Bads said:
Benz CLS V12?
I didn't think there were any Mercedes CLS with a V12, apart from the Brabus Rocket.

Presumably you mean the CL?
This is what I was about to say! You can get the CLS with a supercharged V8 I think in the CLS55 (latter CLS63 definitely out of £8 range!). CL600 would be the V12 monster - same as Clarkson bought on Top Gear for £7k ish.

Cancel the greatest first post parade wink

Edit - OP already acknowledged error thumbup

miln0039

2,013 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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I can't see any CLS55 AMGs for much less than £15k...

afrochicken

1,166 posts

240 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Bads said:
You're right, it's a V8 - my mistake. This choice of a MB CLS was the result of a pub conversation..... either way, I'll take a 5l V8
thumbup

miln0039 said:
I can't see any CLS55 AMGs for much less than £15k...
It would be the CLS 500