RE: Chris Harris video: Alpina B3 Biturbo
RE: Chris Harris video: Alpina B3 Biturbo
Thursday 29th August 2013

Chris Harris video: Alpina B3 Bi-Turbo

Chris is back from his hols and laying down rubber in Alpina's twin-turbo 3 Series



My wholesome and fulfilling relationship with Alpina came to a shuddering end one day on a Welsh hillside in 2005. Up until that point it had been fine wines and small talk with Herr Bovensiepen and a celebration of a company which understood what actually made a decent road car.

Then came the E60 B5 saloon, and an Autocar group test with an M5 of the same vintage, and a 535d. I just didn't understand what had happened. That lovely balance of speed and comfort had been skewed by vast torque and the subsequent velocity exposed the chassis. Comfort had mutated into sloth. It felt flabby and under damped.

The thinking man's M3 and available now!
The thinking man's M3 and available now!
Alpina didn't much like the story, and I didn't hear from them for a long, long time.

During that time Alpina became slightly swamped by the rapid rise of Audi RS, AMG and BMW's own M models. They couldn't trade on outright power and pushing a 'comfort' message didn't really work either. Punters seem to want firepower and not much besides. Equally, cars like the M5 now have such a broad set of skills that it must make life very difficult to define an Alpina model with a different personality using such similar hardware.

The new B3 is the case in point, but I think it marks a return to what Alpina should be all about: a sub-M car that combines interesting components to create an even more interesting whole. This is a car which will hit 190mph, but can be specified to look little different to a 320d. It can be ordered with an optional LSD, one developed especially for this car, and that really is important when you have so much torque. And you all know how much I like the ZF eight-speed auto.

This car reawakened my love for Alpina. I've owned them in the past. For a while I couldn't really see myself driving any other fast saloon or estate car. But that lay period saw my attentions diverted. This B3 changes that. It feels old-school Alpina cool - a car with an identity quite unlike anything currently made by BMW.

Enjoy the vid.

 

   
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peter8171

Original Poster:

183 posts

174 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Just need to be the touring version to be the perfect road car.

BULLITT Rich

550 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Another good vid, even from someone who isn't a fan of BMWs etc. I do find Chris' vids more entertaining than Top Gear regardless of what car is on topic.

Nice car though, great performance and a lot cheaper than I thought it was going to be.

Only gripe is the oh so obvious product placement (Grid2). I know Chris did some work for the advert for the game but it does come across a bit... Santander ish.

E38Ross

36,729 posts

243 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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call me sacrilegious but one thing i really don't like about Alpina's (or, most of them) are those wheels....just don't seem to go.

e28525e

532 posts

172 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Great video, great review, awesome car. I had no idea Chris didn't rate the B5 though, it's one of my dream cars.

Wills2

29,840 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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4.2 to 60 and 190mph and Chris says the M3 will be quicker! I would love an xdrive touring version, no reason why they can't do the xdrive for the UK either.


NGK210

5,120 posts

176 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Good vid, ta smile

Not sure it's "discreet", though? Not with those 20in wheels - am I alone in thinking they look dated/'90s? - and the less-than subtle 'ALPINA' badge on the front air dam - is the latter a delete option?

Still, the 4WD estate seems very tempting. But it's LHD only irked

Wadeski

9,054 posts

244 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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An Alpina without pinstripes!?!

Madness.

T16OLE

2,965 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Did I hear correctly 20mm profile tyres?

Escort3500

13,577 posts

176 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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E38Ross said:
call me sacrilegious but one thing i really don't like about Alpina's (or, most of them) are those wheels....just don't seem to go.
I was just thinking the same thing. They look so Eighties and wholly out of character with the car's sharp styling. That aside, what a fantastic bit of kit it is. Understated, searing performance that would put many top end sports cars to shame and at a pretty reasonable price. Thanks for another great vid as well Chris.

Edited by Escort3500 on Wednesday 28th August 21:53

E38Ross

36,729 posts

243 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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T16OLE said:
Did I hear correctly 20mm profile tyres?
no, you heard 20 profile tyres. that means the sidewall of the tyre is 20% of the width of the tyres (e.g. if they're 265mm wide the sidewall is 53mm

Axionknight

8,505 posts

166 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Get rid of the ALPINA badge on the back, stick some nicer alloys on it (sorry, but those are terrible) and that's a winner for me!

panholio

1,109 posts

179 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Call me crazy but I really like the alloys.

juniorbox

101 posts

175 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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A touring, without privacy glass and with 18" wheels for me. My perfect all rounder. Am I alone in my hatred of privacy glass? Every bloody car with any performance pretension at all seems to have it now. Grrr.

red355

231 posts

244 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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ALPINA turbine wheels are common factor thru out the variants, just like those dreadful tartan seats in Golf GTIs

love em or hate them ...

Kolbenkopp

2,345 posts

182 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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red355 said:
ALPINA turbine wheels are common factor thru out the variants, just like those dreadful tartan seats in Golf GTIs

love em or hate them ...
Yup that's just the way it is supposed to be, aka tradition. Like both really, the rims and the tartan wink but I'm not a big fan of the current rim dimensions at Alpina. Makes no sense on a car like this, just a silly fashion thing.

Cheib

25,466 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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The wheels are definitely marmite but then it just wouldn't be an Alpina on anything else.

0-60 in 4.2 and 190mph...WOW! Unthinkable from a 3 series of any flavour only a few years ago.

Touring version will be very popular indeed I would think. Perfect family car.

BULLITT Rich

550 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Kolbenkopp said:
Yup that's just the way it is supposed to be, aka tradition. Like both really, the rims and the tartan wink but I'm not a big fan of the current rim dimensions at Alpina. Makes no sense on a car like this, just a silly fashion thing.
Especially with UK roads, they'd make mincemeat of those wheels in no time!

Zyp

16,157 posts

220 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Why would you want to remove the Alpina badge?
Bizarre thinking.

And the wheels - those turbines look fantastic especially when viewed from an angle.

Absolute bds to clean though!

(Agree on the size though - 19's are big enough and ride beautifully)

Edited by Zyp on Wednesday 28th August 22:14

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Seems to be a pattern here, Touring, and 18" Alpina wheels for me please. Pretty much my perfect UK family car, and what fun it would be on international trips.

I priced one up and it came to £68,000 iirc. My man maths neurons are telling me it's a buy it and keep it forever purchase. Still isn't going to happen though :-(

edited to say- for me one of the points of Alpina was that they had gorgeous wheels (my opinion!) but not overly large. 20's on a 3 series just seem ridiculous to me. My B3 (worth the same as a couple of options on this) rides beautifully on 18's. This on 18's or 19's would be much better for the uk. I hope there's a no cost option for smaller and more discrete wheels.

Edited by Polynesian on Wednesday 28th August 22:14

Wills2

29,840 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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panholio said:
Call me crazy but I really like the alloys.
So do I they rock.