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Tillychick

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159 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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I'm in the process of buying a 56 Mazda 5 1.8 TS2.

All looked good, but had it inspected by the AA today and he's noted a knock in the rear suspension, corrosion to the outer exhaust. There are also some minor points like the battery cover being missing, and a chip on the windscreen. He also can't find details of a service having been done since Jan 12/37k, and it's now at 47k - so needs one. I'm hoping the latter is just a clerical error as I was assured it was mot'd and taxed when the dealer got it in June.

I'm keen to proceed with the sale, but am I right to be looking at a price reduction for these issues?

Price agreed was £4,400 (window price was £4,995).

Edited by Tillychick on Thursday 29th August 21:18

twing

5,835 posts

162 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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No idea if the price is sensible or not but -
The AA/RAC are paid to find things wrong aren't they? Corrosion on outer exhaust is nothing, chip on screen 30 quid or get Gavin in, get the knocking looked at a bit closer but, hey, used car and all that. As for the service Id be more interested in how thorough the 30k one was than whether its had the next.

Bill

58,897 posts

286 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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I have no idea what they should cost but that seems like a good deal to me. And I would expect a car of that age to have a service indicator so it might not think it's due.

The knock is a concern, but unless you know what it is there's no knowing how serious or expensive a fix it is. I'd go back to the dealer and negotiate on getting the knick sorted and try to get a service done.

Superhoop

4,919 posts

224 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Knocking on the rear suspension will be one of three things

Rear damper leaking - needs replacement

Rear damper seized - needs replacement, or

Rear anti roll bar bushes - causes what sounds like a knock as the bar twists through the bush

All quite common and all pretty cheap to repair. The dampers are just bolted up into the turret from the underside, with one mounting bolt on the lower arm.

PM. Me a VIN, or reg, and I can check the SH

lbc

3,340 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Superhoop said:
Knocking on the rear suspension will be one of three things
The Op said a knock on the rear suspension.

To me that means physical accident damage, unless talking about the noise it makes?

Tillychick

Original Poster:

12 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Thanks all.

Yes, it's a knocking sound coming from the rear suspension. Not a dink.

And also that should say the dealer assured me it was MOT'd and SERVICED by their workshop when they got it in June....not taxed!

Thanks for offering to check service history Superhoop but it won't let me message yet as I'm such a new member. Can I put the reg here? Or is that not allowed?

lbc

3,340 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Tillychick said:
Yes, it's a knocking sound coming from the rear suspension. Not a dink.
Does not sound much wrong with it then.

Superhoop

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224 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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I don't think it's an issue, just most people aren't keen on posting the registration of their car

Tillychick

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Thursday 29th August 2013
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Superhoop said:
I don't think it's an issue, just most people aren't keen on posting the registration of their car
Yeah fair point. Bugger. I'm hoping this will all be sorted by the time I can PM!

Superhoop

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Thursday 29th August 2013
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Link to an advert?

HTP99

25,417 posts

171 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Instead of a further reduction speak to the dealer, really the only issue is the knocking suspension, any reputable dealer will sort that out within the agreed price.

These AA/RAC inspections can throw up more non issues than actual issues, we have lost deals because of an over zealous inspection, where things have been mentioned that aren't issues at all, corroding exhaust being one, usually the sort of customer that wants an inspection is a bit of a worrier anyway and then they get presented with a list of non problems and get even more worried.

Tillychick

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159 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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It's been taken off auto trader.


Edited by Tillychick on Thursday 29th August 21:30

Tillychick

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159 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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HTP99 said:
Instead of a further reduction speak to the dealer, really the only issue is the knocking suspension, any reputable dealer will sort that out within the agreed price.

These AA/RAC inspections can throw up more non issues than actual issues, we have lost deals because of an over zealous inspection, where things have been mentioned that aren't issues at all, corroding exhaust being one, usually the sort of customer that wants an inspection is a bit of a worrier anyway and then they get presented with a list of non problems and get even more worried.
Yeah, that'll be me.

Nervy first timer! I was unsure what we can expect the dealer to put right and what is just part and parcel of a used car.

Superhoop

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224 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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PDI - 15/0107

12,500 mile service - 12/03/08 @ 8,367 miles

25,000 mile service - 26/03/09 @ 18,853 miles

No records of any other service at a main dealer, and nothing logged by an independent, so unless there's proof elsewhere, it looks like it's not been serviced for over 4 years and nearly 30,000 miles




Tillychick

Original Poster:

12 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Superhoop said:
PDI - 15/0107

12,500 mile service - 12/03/08 @ 8,367 miles

25,000 mile service - 26/03/09 @ 18,853 miles

No records of any other service at a main dealer, and nothing logged by an independent, so unless there's proof elsewhere, it looks like it's not been serviced for over 4 years and nearly 30,000 miles
Thanks for checking. But hmm... That's a worry!

twing

5,835 posts

162 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Superhoop said:
PDI - 15/0107

12,500 mile service - 12/03/08 @ 8,367 miles

25,000 mile service - 26/03/09 @ 18,853 miles

No records of any other service at a main dealer, and nothing logged by an independent, so unless there's proof elsewhere, it looks like it's not been serviced for over 4 years and nearly 30,000 miles
So presumably dealer has proof of 30k service, stamp or receipt, so OP can call the garage and check its legit.

Tillychick

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159 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Although the AA report clearly said there was one done at 37k...? Must be paperwork somewhere showing that I guess?

Could really do without traipsing up there with 2 kids in tow tomorrow! Hoping they will sort this all out for me in the morning.

Superhoop

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224 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Even if it was done at 37k, that's 19,000 miles without a between services

twing

5,835 posts

162 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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I presume the dealer has prepped the car and is giving you a warranty. Does it really matter what's happened before as long as it's consummate to age & mileage when you take delivery?

Tillychick

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12 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Superhoop said:
Even if it was done at 37k, that's 19,000 miles without a service
10k? It's on 47k at the minute