RE: Ferrari 512 TR: PH Fleet
RE: Ferrari 512 TR: PH Fleet
Tuesday 3rd September 2013

Ferrari 512 TR: PH Fleet

The Harris family goes on holiday and the 512TR is allowed to tag along - result!



It was without 100 per cent confidence that I drove the 512 TR to France the other week. It wasn't as if I felt sure the car would fail to complete the journey, but that I hadn't really managed to spend enough time with it before leaving to learn what its foibles were. You always need to know an old car before you use it hard.

TR's big hips a squeeze on Eurotunnel
TR's big hips a squeeze on Eurotunnel
In this case, I hadn't let it idle in hot weather to see if the thermostat worked properly, I hadn't cruised at high speed for hours at a time and there was the lurking worry that the blue smoke incident might be evidence of major engine troubles. Somewhat recklessly, I jumped in and went anyway.

It turns out that a 21-year-old, 55,000-mile, flat-12 Ferrari actually ignores all of the generic assumptions made about it. In over 2,200 miles - Autoroute, N-roads, D-roads and even a slow trundle all the way down the Gorge du Verdon - it didn't miss a beat. We also shot a film for DRIVE, which meant two days of stop-start thrashing, and again the car ran faultlessly. The first few times the water temperature needle swung beyond the vertical my spine stiffened, but then the vast fans cut in and the car was quite happy sitting and idling.

Chris remains ambivalent about his new toy
Chris remains ambivalent about his new toy
Drink problem
There's a massive difference between fuel consumption at a cruise and when you're letting that motor zing beyond 6,000rpm. On the Autoroute I saw around 18mpg at a 90mph cruise, which seems about right to me, but that figure dropped to 9.5mpg when we were filming. The tank is a genuine 100 litres, but you need to play roulette with the dial because the needle flat-lines with 20 litres remaining and the fuel light just stays on. Running out of fuel in a car that looks like this wouldn't be a good idea.

I managed to whack the splitter on a low kerb before even leaving the UK, then graunched it badly in some weeny medieval French streets. The third time I bashed it, a whole chunk came away, forcing a trip to the local Casino and an Araldite purchase. The fix isn't pretty, but it held together for the remainder of the trip. I've ordered a replacement: £383, plus VAT. Ouch.

As a driving experience, I'm not quite sure what more I could want from a car than this. Admittedly, I spend so much lucky time in modern supercars that in my own car I want something much more basic and interactive. This thing is perfect: no traction control, no ABS (in 1992? Were they mad?) and a gearchange that always makes you concentrate and plan your actions. The clutch bite point is a little high at the moment, but we'll try and sort that over the winter.

512 does stand out somewhat among 'normal' cars
512 does stand out somewhat among 'normal' cars
At a fast cruise it's a calm machine. The ride is pretty supple, being mid-engined you don't have any mechanical noise seeping in through the scuttle and I have managed to find a seating position that makes best use of the generous side bolsters. On the way back we ran for 980 miles only stopping for fluids to be added or ejected as needed, and I felt no more jaded than if I'd been in a 458. In fact, the 512's much more supple ride is probably more useful for this type of driving than the modern car's reduced wind noise.

Slowly does it
One of the great tests of a car of this type is how special it feels being driven slowly - the 512 passes it with flying colours. The gearshift and long gearing means there's plenty to keep the driver busy trundling through villages, light blips of throttle bring a lovely, natural flat-12 sound which makes all these modern valved exhausts sound quite false. And people seem to warm to the absurdity of the looks more readily than they do to modern Ferrari shapes. I have no idea why, but they do.

Wait, no, something did break on the trip...
Wait, no, something did break on the trip...
The 512's brakes were significantly upgraded over the Testarossa's and there are dedicated cooling ducts at the front, but it really doesn't take long to get the pedal wobbling slightly. The pedal never gets too long, but we really don't know how lucky we are with modern supercar brakes. I love the challenge of not having ABS, but when a Citroen van turns in front of you and you need to stop and turn, you wonder if it isn't actually quite a good idea.

Other random feedback? My driving position means the sun visor is practically useless. I cannot fathom the heater controls, but the air-con is very powerful. The pop-up lights were surprisingly effective and the Bridgestone S-02s must be quite old because the car decided to oversteer a few times when I didn't expect it to.

But perhaps the most telling thing of all is that I can now hardly remember owning a 599. This is what it's all about: not caring about the mileage, enjoying a car as it should be driven and reminding ourselves that the incessant pursuit of ever faster and more technically gifted machinery has forced engineers to forgot quite where the driver should fit into the equation.

Oh, and there was one mechanical failure in those 2,000 miles. My youngest child was using the cabin as a playground on the Eurotunnel, and now one of the cassette tape holders won't relocate. Damn.


FACT SHEET
Car:
 Ferrari 512 TR
Run by: Chris Harris
Bought: June 2013
Mileage: 56,000
Purchase price: Next question...
Last month at a glance: Harris skips the traditional getting to know you chit-chat and cracks straight on to the honeymoon in the south of France - is it still love though?


Previous updates:
Chris has bought another Ferrari...





   
   
   
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james_gt3rs

Original Poster:

4,816 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Lovely car, shame about the splitter!

Davey S2

13,394 posts

284 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Most Ferraris seem to behave perfectly on long Euro hoons - provided they aren't garage queens and are regularly used.

Looking forward to the Drive Vid.

JMC1

567 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Terrific please keep the TR a good while and keep the reports coming.
Thank you, lovely car.

Trikster

935 posts

232 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Think it was your car I saw on the M4 a couple of weeks ago - perhaps on the way to France?

Love these, have aged brilliantly, and great that its having the miles put on it...

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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The more I read about these on PH, the more I realise it's my perfect Ferrari. Magnificent engine, classic styling, basic driving experience.

Come on lottery numbers, I need a 512TR!

GusB

275 posts

189 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Interesting read and a car that I have always liked, however not sure you can forget about owning a 599... I know I wont ever...

Thanks for keeping car reviews real Chris.

GusB

dictys

914 posts

288 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I did 1500 around europe in the 308 and very often do very long trips in the 928, in both cases the cars were driven hard and performed faultlessly.

For some reason the long trips in older metal makes the trip a lot more special.

A 512 TR is certainly on my short list for my next purchase.

Hamsternator

45 posts

169 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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That photo of it parked where you can only see the back half of it makes it look awful, like a Lotus Europa with the big sloped back. The full profile is of course much better!

andybu

294 posts

238 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Ah - so it was you who went past us on the M20 as we were turning off for Eurotunnel on our run to SPA for the Belgian GP?? Can't have been 2 of these on the move in Kent on August 22nd..

Lovely to see a car like this being used properly. Please keep doing it. I look forward to reading how it behaves on the Sainsbury's run..

moskvich427

227 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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That's how a supercar should be used - I'm glad your bravery was rewarded Chris!!







VinceFox

20,566 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I'd have had magical sound shower on tape for pretty much the whole journey.

Outrun

425 posts

263 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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VinceFox said:
I'd have had magical sound shower on tape for pretty much the whole journey.
Surely Passing Breeze.. wink

Great write up Chris. I'm going to be doing a similar Journey in my 355 soon. Looking forward to it even more after reading this.

f1ten

2,165 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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amazing purchase and glad to here it made the trip without issues. Please keep it and enjoy it!
Im frankly bored of seeing 15 458s per day in London... this is individuality as it should be let alone its not some automatic that can be driven to work by a women in her high heels.

iacabu

1,406 posts

179 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I was thinking £460 for a Ferrari splitter doesn't seem bad....then I saw the pic of what the splitter actually consists of. Definitely "ouch".

TheBigUnit

364 posts

222 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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f1ten said:
amazing purchase and glad to here it made the trip without issues. Please keep it and enjoy it!
Im frankly bored of seeing 15 458s per day in London... this is individuality as it should be let alone its not some automatic that can be driven to work by a women in her high heels.
A woman driving a supercar? We can't have that! Whatever next - the vote?

Back on topic, I've never been much of a Ferrari fan, but hearing about substantial miles being put onto a classic is interesting and enlightening.

cidered77

1,940 posts

227 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Outrun said:
VinceFox said:
I'd have had magical sound shower on tape for pretty much the whole journey.
Surely Passing Breeze.. wink
love the references - made my day!!

errek72

943 posts

276 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Sounds like the biggest risk you took was driving on those 'unknown' tires at speed Mr Harris.. I had one blow on a Lancia Delta between corners, turned out it was a refurbished job. Pretty sure those are illegal but there you go. Ever since any new arrival gets fresh rubber. Although my rate of switching rides is spectacularly lower than yours, so I can see the case for not doing so.

Anyway, great to read you're using her and nothing happened to spoil it.

collierrufus

8 posts

162 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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What with this good news story and the huge trip Harry Metcalfe did in his Countach, maybe historically the problem with these old cars was they just didn't get the use they needed. As Chris often says these cars should be celebrated by being driven properly, doing journeys like this. Having seen that these cars can actually perform like this, who needs a modern Ferrari or similar that need to be on a track to be at their best when these cars are at their best not only casually cruising the autoroutes or the coast roads of the continent, but when they're stood still they are usually more magical than the modern offerings too!
Love this car and its contemporaries and look forward to hearing more and the video will be fantastic. Modern computing exercise, sorry car, or classic artwork... I know where my money would go if I had it.

boolay

1,553 posts

268 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Don't worry Chris, at least the cassette box is cheaper to replace than the splitter

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferrari-Testarossa-512TR...

havoc

33,487 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Nice article.

One question - do you think journalists from a generation before said the same things about "modern tech" like fuel-injection, servo'd brakes and PAS, how they corrupted the drive and character of a car?


It's a genuine question...I'm broadly of the same opinion as CH (well, except for ABS...I'm not that good a driver), but am wondering if it's a generational thing or if the 80s/90s sports/supercars really were the zenith of the ownership/involvement equation...