Am I being screwed??
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freenote

Original Poster:

805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Took car in (Audi A4 B5) for a new wheel bearing as there was a loud droning sound. Also asked them to clean the ABS sensors as they were kicking in too early.

Roll on 5 days and the first I hear from them is that they've completed the work at a cost of £444 inc vat!

Now I know the wheel bearing including labour should be 160 + vat or thereabouts and maybe max 1hr labour for cleaning abs sensors but they then told me that they had to replace the flange inside the hub at £100 + labour. I didn't ask for this and nobody told me they were doing it.

Where do I stand??

(And this was meant to be bangernomics!!)

catman

2,504 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I always thought that the garage should contact you before carrying out any work that wasn't agreed.

It would have been better if you had that conversation with the garage before the work was carried out, but I'm not sure how you can proceed now.

The garage probably won't release your car until the work's paid for. If it's a garage that you usually use and are happy with, then maybe best to put it down to experience.

Tim

freenote

Original Poster:

805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I have been using them for a bit and have generally been happy with them but this is an annoyance and I'm not really happy to pay for something I haven't asked for.

simonrockman

7,128 posts

286 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Didn't they call you first? I've never had a garage not call me.

When I last took my shed in to my local place I had the bosses, golf for a day. They called me to say what the work would cost, I demurred, took the golf back, they had washed my car and said "no charge". I did put a tenner's worth of fuel.

freenote

Original Poster:

805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Nope, no call at all.

Can I refuse to pay for that part?

lbc

3,340 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Always agree the price before any work is done.

The op instructed the garage to do some work on the ABS without asking how much.

The ops fault.

freenote

Original Poster:

805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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lbc said:
Always agree the price before any work is done.

The op instructed the garage to do some work on the ABS without asking how much.

The ops fault.
No, I asked them to clean the sensors and change a wheel bearing. That is all.

Still my fault?

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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ABS sensors send a digital square wave. They're either on or off. Cleaning wont do anything unless you were getting an ABS fault. Just saying.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

236 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Ask to see the old part and ask why it was replaced.

spikeyhead

20,613 posts

228 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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freenote said:
lbc said:
Always agree the price before any work is done.

The op instructed the garage to do some work on the ABS without asking how much.

The ops fault.
No, I asked them to clean the sensors and change a wheel bearing. That is all.

Still my fault?
If they couldn't complete the changing of the wheel bearing without replacing the flange then they could argue that it was part of the wheel bearing change. Having said that, I'm surprised that a flange needs replacing unless it was damaged as they took the car apart. What was wrong with it?

freenote

Original Poster:

805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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spikeyhead said:
If they couldn't complete the changing of the wheel bearing without replacing the flange then they could argue that it was part of the wheel bearing change. Having said that, I'm surprised that a flange needs replacing unless it was damaged as they took the car apart. What was wrong with it?
They haven't explained that as yet. Unfortunately my knowledge is not as in-depth as I would like and I don't know what the flange does, what it should look like etc etc.

balls-out

3,794 posts

262 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Did you sign anything as you left the car?
It seems a common trick now to make you sign something with loads of small print, including "I authorise......"

freenote

Original Poster:

805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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balls-out said:
Did you sign anything as you left the car?
It seems a common trick now to make you sign something with loads of small print, including "I authorise......"
Nope, wrote my name and contact details but no signature.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Bangernomics? I'm not sure main dealer servicing is a usual feature.

Just put it down to experience. Make sure they talk it through fully when you collect the car, and perhaps attempt a polite haggle.

Andyjc86

1,149 posts

180 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I bet the inner bearing was seized onto the flange, hence replacement. Naughty they didn't inform you first though.

jay140285

626 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I had this a couple of yrs ago.

BMW went in for a service, think it was about £180.

When I went to collect the bill was nearly £500 as it was due an inspection in about 2000miles so they just did it and something else I forget what but none of this was approved by me.

I had to pay the bill to get the car released.

Didnt use Sytner after that for anything.

simonrockman

7,128 posts

286 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Our Scenic regularly went in for ordinary services where if it came to less than £800 with additional costs, but they always called

freenote

Original Poster:

805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Certainly wasn't main dealer. Anyway I negotiated and got the car back. Good thing is it's running great now.
Should probably start a readers ride thread to demonstrate pitfalls of bangernomics with german cars.

zebra

4,555 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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There is a Mazda franchise where I live that regularly used to play the trick of adding things to bills that had not been agreed. I chose never to use them again.

They tried it on with me on three separate occasions, the worst being going in for a service and being told that my seatbelt pre-tensioner on the passenger side was broken so they had put a new seatbelt unit in for me. Yeah, right.

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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freenote said:
Certainly wasn't main dealer. Anyway I negotiated and got the car back. Good thing is it's running great now.
Should probably start a readers ride thread to demonstrate pitfalls of bangernomics with german cars.
Bangernomics Plus, not Bangernomics wink .

Nothing wrong with the former at all; better the devil one knows and all that - avoiding depreciation by whatever means FTW thumbup .