EEK..Is my Roof going up the Chute.
EEK..Is my Roof going up the Chute.
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Ed50

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2,574 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Technical please,

On several occasions now my roof has failed to close mid operation on my new V8VS Roadster..................

It throws up messages like Roof Function Failure or I think it says movement incomplete,if my eyes serve me right,ba*tard tiny writing.

I've noticed on two occasions when this has happened my driver side window has been slightly down.

Today on return to home with the roof down it stopped its self mid motion,try as I might it was stuck like a half open tin of Sardines.

In the end with the car switched off and as if by magic it completely closed its self then seem to clear its memory and on restart functioned perfectly.

Any clues cus its lost me.

Thanks.

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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The roofs can be like stroppy women, throwing a wobbler for no apparent reason frown
I've fou d with my two NEVER touch the doors or windows whilst the roof is in operation it hates that
If you do it on the move and get gust of wind it will do what you described and only resolves by turning the car off and back on
Sounds like it could be slightly out of alignment
If you switch it off and leave it 5 minutes the hydraulics relieve pressure and it all relaxes back down (a problem if the cover is above the roof)

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

209 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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No advice Ed, I'm afraid but just to say I think this is a relatively common failure on certain cars. I had a brand new V8VR as a courtesy car and exactly the same problem. Thankfully the weather was epic so didnt need to put it up in a rush. Did leave me hanging like your tin of sardines though, but on every occasion having switched off the car, a few seconds later the system releases a hydraulic/electronic lock and the roof comes down. Warranty? I know Martyn (JMOC12) has had issues with his brand new SP10. Sorry to be of little use.

Biggriff

2,312 posts

314 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Ed you're not got going to find out it was the battery like avianlarf are you. I can't spare anymore time to take the wee wee.

At least it's on a proper car, not an imitation Mercedes.........

(oh here I go again).

God help me when something goes wrong on mine.

Jalfonse

241 posts

170 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Lectrics don't like warm weather Ed, my fuel flap wouldn't open this morning at Kate's bridge petrol station, I had someone pressing the button while I was trying to waggle the flap, much to the amusement of everyone else.., just about got to work without running out of fuel and as soon as I parked it it worked fine @&#

Ed50

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2,574 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Right I get it,its a fault that ain't a fault..........right,could only get away with that in an Aston.

Just been to town to pick up one of my daughters so thought I'd re test the job,all went fine....................

Coming home I've developed the squeak and rattle from hell on the drivers side rear end,strangely where a new ASM
Gearbox pump was fitted only last Friday............ho hum head doer time for bed,were's my Bentley Brochure.

HWM if your reading this I'll be ringing in the morning..............yet again weeping


Ed50

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2,574 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Jalfonse said:
Lectrics don't like warm weather Ed, my fuel flap wouldn't open this morning at Kate's bridge petrol station, I had someone pressing the button while I was trying to waggle the flap, much to the amusement of everyone else.., just about got to work without running out of fuel and as soon as I parked it it worked fine @&#
Hey Lee I forgot to tell you,you get these Harry Hill moments with an Aston,

Sh*t ,did you want to run away and hide............bet it was a right caper first thing in a morning.

J12MOC

802 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Ed my car is at the dealers now for a roof problem.....it would close fine until there was about a 6" gap to the top of the screen. It wouldn't go any further, just made the hydraulics whining noise. If I just pulled down lightly it would drop and the locking pawls would engage and lock. This was found at the PDI. I'm awaiting resolution!!

Be interested in the progress of this and I'll keep you updated on mine.thumbup

silverspeed

1,508 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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I overheard someone atvan AMOC event saying the roof is supplied by Mercedes. Had the same issues with my V12R and must admit its squeaky bum time when you see rain ahead with the roof down and wonder whether the roof will work or not. IMO there are too many instances of roof failures on recent new cars for it not to be concern. On my MY10 V8R I had no roof issues whatsoever during ownership. I wonder what has changed?

Ed50

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2,574 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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silverspeed said:
I overheard someone atvan AMOC event saying the roof is supplied by Mercedes. Had the same issues with my V12R and must admit its squeaky bum time when you see rain ahead with the roof down and wonder whether the roof will work or not. IMO there are too many instances of roof failures on recent new cars for it not to be concern. On my MY10 V8R I had no roof issues whatsoever during ownership. I wonder what has changed?
I wonder if they've bought up all the remaining Crossfire roof mechanisms...........sorry Steven if your out there.

After talking to folk and reading on here about failures I asked at the dealers but they told me they had only had one
instance and that was with a V12 such as yours.

I think new cars in general are poor currently and someone at the factory needs to get hold of it before it damages the market.

silverspeed

1,508 posts

260 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Ed50 said:
silverspeed said:
I overheard someone atvan AMOC event saying the roof is supplied by Mercedes. Had the same issues with my V12R and must admit its squeaky bum time when you see rain ahead with the roof down and wonder whether the roof will work or not. IMO there are too many instances of roof failures on recent new cars for it not to be concern. On my MY10 V8R I had no roof issues whatsoever during ownership. I wonder what has changed?
I wonder if they've bought up all the remaining Crossfire roof mechanisms...........sorry Steven if your out there.

After talking to folk and reading on here about failures I asked at the dealers but they told me they had only had one
instance and that was with a V12 such as yours.

I think new cars in general are poor currently and someone at the factory needs to get hold of it before it damages the market.
I assume we use the same dealer - Derby? I know of three V12VR that have had roof issues , all built around the same time.

Ed50

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2,574 posts

211 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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silverspeed said:
I assume we use the same dealer - Derby? I know of three V12VR that have had roof issues , all built around the same time.
No not the same dealer Graham I'm with HWM,yes it seems there are all to many issues currently.

My car came off the line 27th March 2013 BTW.

ShrekV12VR

183 posts

179 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Ed50 said:
No not the same dealer Graham I'm with HWM,yes it seems there are all to many issues currently.

My car came off the line 27th March 2013 BTW.
I''ve been having exactly the same issue with the roof failing to raise on my V12VR. HWM have looked at it twice but it never fails when they have the car. They replaced the control module but the first time I tried to raise the roof after the car returned I had the same error! Since then we have done 11 days/2500 miles without it reoccurring, raising the roof about twice a day so fingers crossed.

Ed50

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2,574 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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ShrekV12VR said:
Ed50 said:
No not the same dealer Graham I'm with HWM,yes it seems there are all to many issues currently.

My car came off the line 27th March 2013 BTW.
I''ve been having exactly the same issue with the roof failing to raise on my V12VR. HWM have looked at it twice but it never fails when they have the car. They replaced the control module but the first time I tried to raise the roof after the car returned I had the same error! Since then we have done 11 days/2500 miles without it reoccurring, raising the roof about twice a day so fingers crossed.
Snap.......they've played around with mine and its performed its duty without fail so I'm just seeing how it goes now.

Bit nervous now about putting it back up and tend to hold the button after making sure the windows are up and my arms and any thing else that might hinder it are out the way.

Have noticed that the windows aren't forming a tight seal with the roof now and I'm experiencing a lot of wind and motorway noise particularly on the drivers side.

I'm sure it will come right eventually so I just keep my fingers crossed at the moment,its going back in shortly to be sorted after we've been down the New Forest in it next week.

So if anyone sees a Vantage Roadster doing an impression of a Sardine Tin that'll be me................hehe

steveatesh

5,365 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Ed50 said:
Snap.......they've played around with mine and its performed its duty without fail so I'm just seeing how it goes now.
Is that a special personal service at your dealers then, not something that's been offered at mine....

Apparently this service is available at Dockyard Dora's though.......whistle

Ed50

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2,574 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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steveatesh said:
Ed50 said:
Snap.......they've played around with mine and its performed its duty without fail so I'm just seeing how it goes now.
Is that a special personal service at your dealers then, not something that's been offered at mine....

Apparently this service is available at Dockyard Dora's though.......whistle
I think its something their trying in the south to see how it goes............

Surprised its not going on up north too,you probably need to march into the showroom and demand satisfaction from your dealer.

BTW Steve you should be on the Burghley list only just down the A1.....

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

182 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Had no problems with my roof thumbup

Ed50

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211 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Tony V12V said:
Had no problems with my roof thumbup
hehe

Tony your a genius you've solved the roof issues..........clap

Edited by Ed50 on Saturday 14th September 19:20

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

182 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Ed50 said:
Tony V12V said:
Had no problems with my roof thumbup
hehe

Tony your a genius you've solved the roof issues..........clap

Edited by Ed50 on Saturday 14th September 19:20

Ed50

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2,574 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Tony V12V said:
Ed50 said:
Tony V12V said:
Had no problems with my roof thumbup
hehe

Tony your a genius you've solved the roof issues..........clap

Edited by Ed50 on Saturday 14th September 19:20
Tony I think they need your straight forward problem solving approach at Gaydon,you could be getting
a call.......yes