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deltaf

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6,806 posts

276 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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This one is aimed at the "partnerships" and zealous plods hiding behind all manner of excuses for enforcing a moronically stupid law.

Tootling along this fine morning well in excess of what the law allows and engaging in a little game of "tag" with a high capacity motorcycle (in front of me), the radio was interupted by one of those "speeding will kill you" ads, it suddenly occured to me thus:

1)What exactly is a safe speed to travel at then?

2)What is YOUR definition of a safe speed? (partners
please feel free to answer this one if you can!)

3)Is there a speed which is suddenly DANGEROUS?

4)Where is that point?

5)Where does it lie?

6)Wheres the evidence for it?

Now. Question 1 is unanswerable if you use the "partners" logic.
As is question 2
And 3,4,5,and 6.

The reason theyre unanswerable is is obvious to any pleb with a half functional brain cell; It depends upon OTHER factors.
The most critical one is being awake in the first place with attention focused where it should be, up front, well up front as it happens, not mindlessly focused on a speedo dial.

The "£partners" would have us believe that any speed over the signed ones is DANGEROUS....booooooooo! Wrong!
Theres more to driving than that, much more, yet they persist in lying to us, and then telling us that them relieving us of £60 is making the roads safer......you couldnt make that one up!

So the challenge is set, Q1 to 6 please, an answer to them!

Lets see if any of these losers can actually "think outside of the box" on this one.



gh0st

4,693 posts

281 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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The speed where is suddently becomes dangerous is when you go 0.00001MPH over the posted limit.

this automatically ensures that your car will kill many millions of children, all of which are playing in the middle of the road for some reason, and will make your vehicle personally responsible for other world events, including probably some things in Iraq.

However if the posted limit is lowered for no substantial reason then the old limit is suddenly dangerous and the process continues.

Thats my understanding of it anyway.

Oh yeah and an SLD920X makes it safe again....

deltaf

Original Poster:

6,806 posts

276 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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What no responses from the partners then? why am i not surprised...

james_j

3,996 posts

278 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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deltaf said:
What no responses from the partners then? why am i not surprised...


Yes, that's most odd...

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

261 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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deltaf said:
This one is aimed at the "partnerships" and zealous plods hiding behind all manner of excuses for enforcing a moronically stupid law.

Tootling along this fine morning well in excess of what the law allows and engaging in a little game of "tag" with a high capacity motorcycle (in front of me), the radio was interupted by one of those "speeding will kill you" ads, it suddenly occured to me thus:

1)What exactly is a safe speed to travel at then?

2)What is YOUR definition of a safe speed? (partners
please feel free to answer this one if you can!)

3)Is there a speed which is suddenly DANGEROUS?

4)Where is that point?

5)Where does it lie?

6)Wheres the evidence for it?

Now. Question 1 is unanswerable if you use the "partners" logic.
As is question 2
And 3,4,5,and 6.

The reason theyre unanswerable is is obvious to any pleb with a half functional brain cell; It depends upon OTHER factors.
The most critical one is being awake in the first place with attention focused where it should be, up front, well up front as it happens, not mindlessly focused on a speedo dial.

The "£partners" would have us believe that any speed over the signed ones is DANGEROUS....booooooooo! Wrong!
Theres more to driving than that, much more, yet they persist in lying to us, and then telling us that them relieving us of £60 is making the roads safer......you couldnt make that one up!

So the challenge is set, Q1 to 6 please, an answer to them!

Lets see if any of these losers can actually "think outside of the box" on this one.





Just to add weight to the concept of your argument Deltaf; I have never had the business explained to me of magistrates deciding, totally off their own back incidentally, that they will ban drivers exceeding 100mph.
I mean what is it that happens at 100mph? Do the laws of physics change, or did I miss something during my engineering training perhaps; like the relationship betweem quantum mechanics and cat's eyes!
Regardless of speed limits, the appropriate speed on any road can vary enormously due to varying factors as you travel. Simply fixing on 100mph as an appropriate safe speed is totally erroneous.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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Safety first....fun later...

Ernest Moss 1994

towman

14,938 posts

262 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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IOLAIRE said:

Just to add weight to the concept of your argument Deltaf; I have never had the business explained to me of magistrates deciding, totally off their own back incidentally, that they will ban drivers exceeding 100mph.
I mean what is it that happens at 100mph? Do the laws of physics change, or did I miss something during my engineering training perhaps; like the relationship betweem quantum mechanics and cat's eyes!
Regardless of speed limits, the appropriate speed on any road can vary enormously due to varying factors as you travel. Simply fixing on 100mph as an appropriate safe speed is totally erroneous.


I was always under the impression that the ban was for exceeding the limit by 30mph. i.e. expect a ban for 60 in a 30 and 100 in a 70. However I may be wrong!

Steve

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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It's on each case and it's merits nowadays....or it seems when I get the court reports back...

Street

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

261 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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towman said:

IOLAIRE said:

Just to add weight to the concept of your argument Deltaf; I have never had the business explained to me of magistrates deciding, totally off their own back incidentally, that they will ban drivers exceeding 100mph.
I mean what is it that happens at 100mph? Do the laws of physics change, or did I miss something during my engineering training perhaps; like the relationship betweem quantum mechanics and cat's eyes!
Regardless of speed limits, the appropriate speed on any road can vary enormously due to varying factors as you travel. Simply fixing on 100mph as an appropriate safe speed is totally erroneous.



I was always under the impression that the ban was for exceeding the limit by 30mph. i.e. expect a ban for 60 in a 30 and 100 in a 70. However I may be wrong!

Steve


You may be right Steve, but why? Under what premise?

deltaf

Original Poster:

6,806 posts

276 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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The questions still remain unanswered. Its impossible to get an answer from them on these most basic issues, and thats why they resort to skewed stats and plain good old fashioned lies.

I still wish to know the answers to these questions, but i seriously doubt the intelligence of those in the "p£rtnerships" and their ability to give a coherent, or indeed, spirited response.
Still, its as well for them to keep quiet when theyre on a hiding to nothing...