Top tip from Newbie
Top tip from Newbie
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HarleyPilot

Original Poster:

128 posts

152 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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I believe this could be a top tip and also save all Cerb owners a bit of cash. After removing the wheels to inspect the sub frame (with fingers crossed) I discovered that the frame work was in excellent condition. Gave her a good going over with some de-greaser and inspected the weld areas. All in solid condition. After removing some flaking and superficial rust, I treated the metal with a good coat of rust converter or blue steel. The Norwegians call it milk (as it goes on white/blue changing to black) Now this stuff works by a chemical reaction with corrosion (so don't take your steel back to bare metal) thus forming a hard protective coating. Top tip - the corner strengthening (triangle) plates are difficult to get at (TVR could have used box section here - in my opinion) so I adapted a fine wire brush allowing me to give the underside of the plates a good scrape. I then used a syringe and tube and sprayed the inside cavity with the rust converter. It will spill out but a receptacle will catch the overflow and you can even use it again. This stuff is amazing and is used in the Offshore and Marine industry world wide. Probably this method has been used and passed on in the past but hey - I am a Newbie (and proud of it redface)

Graham

Boatbuoy

1,972 posts

185 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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HarleyPilot said:
I am a Newbie (and proud of it redface)
...not only that, but your posts are legable too. Ridds will be happy!

AllezWasps

584 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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I'm sure Mr Ridds will pick you up on your spelling of the word 'legible' though Olly!!

Oh, the irony laugh

Hope you are well, long time no see....

Matt

scotty_d

6,795 posts

217 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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See the Scotty project thread for blue steel in full use smile

To add it is great stuff I used blue steel on the chassis as well as aqua shield on other parts, also a great product used offshore.

Edited by scotty_d on Thursday 5th September 10:50

spitfire4v8

4,021 posts

204 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Didnt Derek Zoolander pioneer the use of Blue Steel?

Jhonno

6,430 posts

164 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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spitfire4v8 said:
Didnt Derek Zoolander pioneer the use of Blue Steel?
laugh



Not sure how this works on a Cerbera chassis... confused

Boatbuoy

1,972 posts

185 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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AllezWasps said:
I'm sure Mr Ridds will pick you up on your spelling of the word 'legible' though Olly!!

Oh, the irony laugh

Hope you are well, long time no see....

Matt
Just checking that you're all paying attention! biggrin

I'm good thanks Matt, and you?

AllezWasps

584 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Boatbuoy said:
Just checking that you're all paying attention! biggrin

I'm good thanks Matt, and you?
Good thanks. Revival weekend after next. Are you going? If so be nice to share a cold one together.

Boatbuoy

1,972 posts

185 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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AllezWasps said:
Boatbuoy said:
Just checking that you're all paying attention! biggrin

I'm good thanks Matt, and you?
Good thanks. Revival weekend after next. Are you going? If so be nice to share a cold one together.
'fraid not old chap. One was a little slow out of the gate and missed the tickets! Instead I'm off to Spa (again) in October to give the beast a good run before winter chassis refurb gets underway.

gerradiuk

1,669 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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gerradiuk said:
This is pretty good stuff, prefer this to por15.

Its thin enough to spray on, I use a garden sprayer, handy if you forget to use a jacking pad, works very well.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

Chilliman

12,293 posts

184 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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scotty_d said:
See the Scotty project thread for blue steel in full use smile

To add it is great stuff I used blue steel on the chassis as well as aqua shield on other parts, also a great product used offshore.

Edited by scotty_d on Thursday 5th September 10:50
Funny how you and Harley Pilot both talk about using stuff offshore Scott. Could be the big F connection wink

Chilliman

12,293 posts

184 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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HarleyPilot said:
I believe this could be a top tip and also save all Cerb owners a bit of cash. After removing the wheels to inspect the sub frame (with fingers crossed) I discovered that the frame work was in excellent condition. Gave her a good going over with some de-greaser and inspected the weld areas. All in solid condition. After removing some flaking and superficial rust, I treated the metal with a good coat of rust converter or blue steel. The Norwegians call it milk (as it goes on white/blue changing to black) Now this stuff works by a chemical reaction with corrosion (so don't take your steel back to bare metal) thus forming a hard protective coating. Top tip - the corner strengthening (triangle) plates are difficult to get at (TVR could have used box section here - in my opinion) so I adapted a fine wire brush allowing me to give the underside of the plates a good scrape. I then used a syringe and tube and sprayed the inside cavity with the rust converter. It will spill out but a receptacle will catch the overflow and you can even use it again. This stuff is amazing and is used in the Offshore and Marine industry world wide. Probably this method has been used and passed on in the past but hey - I am a Newbie (and proud of it redface)

Graham
I always thought you'd make a worthy contributor to these hallowed halls whistle

BTW, YHM

Dutch_Cerbera

417 posts

215 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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gerradiuk said:
gerradiuk said:
This is pretty good stuff, prefer this to por15.

Its thin enough to spray on, I use a garden sprayer, handy if you forget to use a jacking pad, works very well.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
That Aqua Steel stuff sounds very good.
Too bad my Cerb has got absolutely no surface rust at all whistle

scotty_d

6,795 posts

217 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Chilliman said:
Funny how you and Harley Pilot both talk about using stuff offshore Scott. Could be the big F connection wink
Shhhh wink

ScottyOkinawa

46 posts

151 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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I've used some stuff called Naval jelly when I was younger, maybe the same stuff? I didn't make the connection to the Navy, I wondered why they named it after my belly button. It worked great while restoring my long gone beetle.

ridds

8,366 posts

267 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Naval jelly just sounds very, very wrong....

Warwick67

418 posts

237 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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When I bought my first TVR, a Chimaera, I used lots of this stufftongue out
Bought a cheap plastic spray bottle, jacked it up and sprayed the flippin lot..... getmecoat

Dutch_Cerbera

417 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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HarleyPilot said:
I believe this could be a top tip and also save all Cerb owners a bit of cash. After removing the wheels to inspect the sub frame (with fingers crossed) I discovered that the frame work was in excellent condition. Gave her a good going over with some de-greaser and inspected the weld areas. All in solid condition. After removing some flaking and superficial rust, I treated the metal with a good coat of rust converter or blue steel. The Norwegians call it milk (as it goes on white/blue changing to black) Now this stuff works by a chemical reaction with corrosion (so don't take your steel back to bare metal) thus forming a hard protective coating. Top tip - the corner strengthening (triangle) plates are difficult to get at (TVR could have used box section here - in my opinion) so I adapted a fine wire brush allowing me to give the underside of the plates a good scrape. I then used a syringe and tube and sprayed the inside cavity with the rust converter. It will spill out but a receptacle will catch the overflow and you can even use it again. This stuff is amazing and is used in the Offshore and Marine industry world wide. Probably this method has been used and passed on in the past but hey - I am a Newbie (and proud of it redface)

Graham
Hi Graham, Thank you very much for the very interesting post.
Do you perhaps have a internet link where to buy Blue Steel, I can't find it myself.
Rik


V8 GRF

7,298 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Dutch_Cerbera said:
Hi Graham, Thank you very much for the very interesting post.
Do you perhaps have a internet link where to buy Blue Steel, I can't find it myself.
Rik
THis would appear to be the manufacturer: http://www.fischem.co.uk/mobile/products/rust/conv...

Similar stuff as linked to above:

http://www.aquasteel.co.uk/

Dutch_Cerbera

417 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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V8 GRF said:
THis would appear to be the manufacturer: http://www.fischem.co.uk/mobile/products/rust/conv...

Similar stuff as linked to above:

http://www.aquasteel.co.uk/
Thank you

I did find Aqua Steel, on ebay, but Blue Steel...
Thing is I am living in Belgium, and those primers/converters are very difficult to find here...
So I have to buy it online but i did not find any online shop for Blue Steel...