full face mtb helmet
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Rob_T

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1,916 posts

280 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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i'm looking at getting a full face mtb helmet.

there seem to be a lot on the market at a variety of prices.

my main criteria are strength, ventilation and weight in that order. price not too fussed about.

can anyone make any recommendations?

JayHeal

265 posts

180 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Troy Lee Designs D2 or if you have deep pockets a D3.
I've had both for Down Hill racing are they are both excellent.
If you want something for a bit less money try T.H.E.

P-Jay

11,405 posts

220 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Rob_T said:
i'm looking at getting a full face mtb helmet.

there seem to be a lot on the market at a variety of prices.

my main criteria are strength, ventilation and weight in that order. price not too fussed about.

can anyone make any recommendations?
Strength should be more or less equal across the board, there is meant to be a sweet-spot between being too soft to survive an impact and too hard as to not absorb the energy.

Ventilation - Fox Rampage is meant to be the best for that, has a few big holes in the shell, most don't.

Weight, D2 Carbon is slightly lighter than a D3 carbon, honestly, it just doesn't matter than much, I've tried carbon Troy Lee's and plastic Troy Lee's, the shell (the carbon bit) makes up a small proportion of the weight, it doesn't matter.

I don't want to sound like an arse, but if this is your first foray into FF lids, your criteria might not be ideal, they all offer far more protection than an XC type lid, I have never known one to fail ever, they really are superb for that, they're all very, very warm if you're not moving, but they're bearable if you are, but you'll get a very sweaty head and they're all heavy compared to XC lids, but not as heavy as motorbike lids and they won't make your neck sore.

Find one that fits the best, Troy Lee are the best looking and 'coolest' but also the most expensive, T.H.E are nearly as cool, Fox and the rest sit a little way below.

Digga

48,185 posts

312 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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IIRC the newwer lids - particualrly the Troy Lee D3 - are curved at the base of the rear, to better integrate with neck braces. If you're considering a neck brace for future, then this helps.

I run a 661 Comp, which I've had for 3 years (and a few crashes biggrin ) and have been pleased with, but it's just a bit more tricky to get a fit with the neck brace that allows a comfortable, head-up stance when you;ve got your arse right the way over the back of the bike.

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

287 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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French company Urge make some awesome lids. I have one of their DownOMatic full face jobbies and its ventilated enough for me to wear in a mid 30's summers day here in Oz. Nice and light too.


Fluffsri

3,411 posts

225 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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I was going to say Urge, CRC did have a load on offer but not sure if they still do?

bobbo89

6,010 posts

174 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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POC make very nice gear, maybe a bit pricey but worth a look.

Rob_T

Original Poster:

1,916 posts

280 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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great responses, thanks peeps...

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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661 comp here too. Doesn't get worn that much, only when i'm being really silly. For the amount i wear it, i couldn't justify an expensive lid.

ecsrobin

18,665 posts

194 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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I had a huge off wearing a 661 comp to the point it bent the mouth guard part. Would certainly recommend as all I had was a bit of a dazed state. If I was to buy again I'd got TLD D2 purely for the looks.

deadtom

2,769 posts

194 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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another vote for Urge down-o-matic here, for no better reason than they look damn cool.

deadtom

2,769 posts

194 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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P-Jay said:
stuff
this man knows.

Digga

48,185 posts

312 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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One other thing that ocurrs to me, from my own experience and that of other guys I ride with, is that for the msot part, you'll not have a crash that breaks these lids unless you're very unlucky.

However, it is not at all uncommon to see crashes that result in the peaks cracking or snapping right off. This applies at all price points and the trouble can be that you can't get hold of replacement peaks, or at least not the right colour/graphics, which does tend to make me thing stuff like the 661 Comp is a good choice.

Then again, it dosen't stop the 'want' when I see some of these Troy Lee D3s.

ecsrobin

18,665 posts

194 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Digga said:
One other thing that ocurrs to me, from my own experience and that of other guys I ride with, is that for the msot part, you'll not have a crash that breaks these lids unless you're very unlucky.

However, it is not at all uncommon to see crashes that result in the peaks cracking or snapping right off. This applies at all price points and the trouble can be that you can't get hold of replacement peaks, or at least not the right colour/graphics, which does tend to make me thing stuff like the 661 Comp is a good choice.

Then again, it dosen't stop the 'want' when I see some of these Troy Lee D3s.
I swapped the peak on my comp for a longer (and chrome) TLD peak, I also got a TLD sticker pack as i only purchased a matte black one and got bored so had blue flames all over it biggrin

R.P.M

1,978 posts

250 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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All helmets fit differently.
For me I can't recommend the D3 enough.
Coming from a cheaper helmet I was shocked when I tried on a mates D3 at how much more secure it felt on my head, so much so that I went out and bought one to replace my fairly new 661, which now just sits in its box.

Yes they are expensive but I believe you get what you pay for and you only have one head.

Ps has someone already mentioned they look cool? wink

TheGreatSoprendo

5,288 posts

278 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Just ordered one of these. Can't tell you what it's like yet as it hasn't arrived, but gets good reviews and looks a bit of a bargain price wise:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/661-evo-wired-h...


Digga

48,185 posts

312 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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R.P.M said:
Ps has someone already mentioned they look cool? wink
Yes, and please shut up about it mate. wink

What with Tbiggrin D3's and Cane Creek DB rear shocks, the temptation for me to buy bling stuff I can't afford, don't need and can't really use to its full potential is overwhelming.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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find a shop and try the helmets, I thought the Urge endur o matic looked liek a great replacemnt helmet tried it on and it barely fitted my head shape.

joema

2,754 posts

208 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Is it for DH?

Or do you plan to ride uphill with it?

I have my 07 carbon D2 still. Really should replace but don't do enough uplift days at the mo.

Fits me lovely and is light, but it is quite hot tbh.

Rob_T

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1,916 posts

280 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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it would be for trips to the alps and stuff in wales where things can get a little more exciting than my stomping ground in and around the chilterns.

so mostly going down but assume a fair amount of riding up as well! to be honest i just quite like my jaw the way it's shaped and held into my face, and i've heard of a few horror stories that i would like never to be able to relate to...