997S or secondhand CSL ?
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Before writing the M3CSL off for looking too much like the other 3 series, are we comparing like with like here on the financial front?
A new 997S with a few basic options is a waiting list away plus a cheque for £67k+, whereas an new M3CSL can be bought tomorrow for about £50k.
Suggest driving both and see which one you like best.
DAZ
Edited to say, hang on you've already got an M3CSL.
>> Edited by dazren on Sunday 24th October 22:24
A new 997S with a few basic options is a waiting list away plus a cheque for £67k+, whereas an new M3CSL can be bought tomorrow for about £50k.
Suggest driving both and see which one you like best.
DAZ
Edited to say, hang on you've already got an M3CSL.
>> Edited by dazren on Sunday 24th October 22:24
Lets say you keep either for 5yrs. Ignoring the waiting list problem. (you can have one tomorrow at list if you know where to look 
) A £70k 997 will be worth circa £40k, and a £50k CSL will be worth i guestimate £25k. There is only £5k difference in residuals.
But like Dazren says drive them both. If you want a safe investment buy gold and oil shares and a £50 Mini Metro
) A £70k 997 will be worth circa £40k, and a £50k CSL will be worth i guestimate £25k. There is only £5k difference in residuals. But like Dazren says drive them both. If you want a safe investment buy gold and oil shares and a £50 Mini Metro
Don't be put off by SMG as it is an awesome gearbox and after 30,000 miles driving one I was very sorry that my next car a Carrera S would not have something similar.
As for a CSL or a Carrera S I would go for the 911 as it feels more like a sports car more of the time. I have driven a CSL around Donnington and at the time it was great fun but once off the track it never feels any more different than a pumped up 3 series.
In 2 years of owning my M3 I still hankered after a 'sports' car, even though technically a 911 is no faster.
As for money a CSL is going to be a heck of a lot cheaper in the long term especially as you can get massive discounts off them new and second hand they are just not shifting.
As for a CSL or a Carrera S I would go for the 911 as it feels more like a sports car more of the time. I have driven a CSL around Donnington and at the time it was great fun but once off the track it never feels any more different than a pumped up 3 series.
In 2 years of owning my M3 I still hankered after a 'sports' car, even though technically a 911 is no faster.
As for money a CSL is going to be a heck of a lot cheaper in the long term especially as you can get massive discounts off them new and second hand they are just not shifting.
I too have a CSL, but the question was, which would make the better buy, and why ?
Sould I return to the Porsche (997S) fold or keep my CSL ?
Almost new GT3's are available at £65+, but every speed bump would break my heart ...
I have a 997 Turbo on order, but do I really want to stump up all that cash ?
Hence the 997S question. What do you reckon ?
Sould I return to the Porsche (997S) fold or keep my CSL ?
Almost new GT3's are available at £65+, but every speed bump would break my heart ...
I have a 997 Turbo on order, but do I really want to stump up all that cash ?
Hence the 997S question. What do you reckon ?
In ten years' time, I suspect enthusiasts will be desperate to get their hands on a CSL and the value will start going up at that point.
When the 964RS was released the motoring press criticised it for its uncompromising nature (or at the very least, they weren't fulsome in their praise), and by 99/2000 you could pick one up from the continent for just north of 20k if you were lucky. Four or five years on, enthusiasts have come to appreciate them as being one of the greatest Porsches ever made and you won't lose any money if you sell on today.
When the 964RS was released the motoring press criticised it for its uncompromising nature (or at the very least, they weren't fulsome in their praise), and by 99/2000 you could pick one up from the continent for just north of 20k if you were lucky. Four or five years on, enthusiasts have come to appreciate them as being one of the greatest Porsches ever made and you won't lose any money if you sell on today.
Harris_I said:
In ten years' time, I suspect enthusiasts will be desperate to get their hands on a CSL and the value will start going up at that point.
When the 964RS was released the motoring press criticised it for its uncompromising nature (or at the very least, they weren't fulsome in their praise), and by 99/2000 you could pick one up from the continent for just north of 20k if you were lucky. Four or five years on, enthusiasts have come to appreciate them as being one of the greatest Porsches ever made and you won't lose any money if you sell on today.
I don't really see this comparison,a 964RS is a relatively straightforward unspohisticated machine..thankfully....I would not relish the maintenance on a 10 year old CSL with it's trck gearbox and diff. I think it will be a very different ownership proposition. Surely the best time to own one of these is when it is inside it's 3 year warranty period?
I would have thought the cost of running a ten year old CSL was comparable to running a ten year old RS.
Edited to say: but in fact my point is the CSL is a little underappreciated today, and I think this will correct itself in time.
>> Edited by Harris_I on Tuesday 26th October 11:20
Edited to say: but in fact my point is the CSL is a little underappreciated today, and I think this will correct itself in time.
>> Edited by Harris_I on Tuesday 26th October 11:20
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