Car seller keeping his personalised reg plate on retention
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Hi all
I've agreed private purchase from the guy (not a trader) and left a deposit with him on Monday, by Friday he had got his tax disk, MOT cert, old plates and his certificate of plate retention from the DVLA -- but not his VC5/logbook.
He's said I could could come and get it any day I like now it has its old plates back on.
I'm nervous about completing the transaction until he has the VC5/Log book back though - it's several thousand pounds so I would prefer everything to be 100% legit.
Have any of you been through something similar and if so how long did it take for the VC5/logbook to show up after the DVLA had returned the Tax & MOT?
Thanks for any help!
I've agreed private purchase from the guy (not a trader) and left a deposit with him on Monday, by Friday he had got his tax disk, MOT cert, old plates and his certificate of plate retention from the DVLA -- but not his VC5/logbook.
He's said I could could come and get it any day I like now it has its old plates back on.
I'm nervous about completing the transaction until he has the VC5/Log book back though - it's several thousand pounds so I would prefer everything to be 100% legit.
Have any of you been through something similar and if so how long did it take for the VC5/logbook to show up after the DVLA had returned the Tax & MOT?
Thanks for any help!
Thanks Lumpy. 1 week is manageable but 5 weeks is pretty bleak!
Don't know if the knackered old run-about I'm using to get to work will even last that long.
Anyone else have experience of this and was it closer to 1 week or 5 weeks? - He handed the paperwork in in person at Borehamwood DVLA if that makes any difference.
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Thanks Jimmy, was that 2 weeks after the Tax, Mot and retention cert were sent back to you or 2 weeks after you put in the original retention request with the DVLA and handed it all over?
Don't know if the knackered old run-about I'm using to get to work will even last that long.
Anyone else have experience of this and was it closer to 1 week or 5 weeks? - He handed the paperwork in in person at Borehamwood DVLA if that makes any difference.
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Thanks Jimmy, was that 2 weeks after the Tax, Mot and retention cert were sent back to you or 2 weeks after you put in the original retention request with the DVLA and handed it all over?
Edited by GenuineEntropy on Saturday 7th September 10:26
DVLA seem quite slow lately, since they closed some of the local offices. Means the tax disc and MoT bit is quick and the V5 can be quite a wait in some cases.
Personally, I wouldn't fret. Get the car (plus receipt) and start driving. V5 is nothing in the scheme of things. I'm sure the guy will pass it on once it appears.
Personally, I wouldn't fret. Get the car (plus receipt) and start driving. V5 is nothing in the scheme of things. I'm sure the guy will pass it on once it appears.
As long as everything else adds up I wouldn't be too worried.
Did you meet at his home address?
Does he seem genuine?
I took a car as a part ex against my RS4 a couple of months ago.
Seller had lost his V5 - but had the tax reminder. I just asked him to bring his passport and two proofs of his address.
Was a nice enough bloke and had a trustworthy face. V5 arrived in the post to me, via him about 10 days later.
I guided the question is "can you trust him?"
Did you meet at his home address?
Does he seem genuine?
I took a car as a part ex against my RS4 a couple of months ago.
Seller had lost his V5 - but had the tax reminder. I just asked him to bring his passport and two proofs of his address.
Was a nice enough bloke and had a trustworthy face. V5 arrived in the post to me, via him about 10 days later.
I guided the question is "can you trust him?"
Thanks northwest monkey:
I am waiting for the V5 to come back so I can fill out the green slip with him, yes.
It's going to cost me pretty much all my money, so I'm nervous to not do it all 100% legit! - I do need it for getting to work because my old car is knackered, so the idea of DVLA delays is somewhat worrying.
Thanks Magic919:
He seems a nice enough bloke, private sale so I met him at his massive house (he has a few quid).
Things I'm worried about with doing it right-away are:
1. The legals; if I get snapped on a speed cam (he'll end up getting the ticket?) getting pulled over (they might think the vehicle is stolen as I'll not be the registered keeper) and insurance (again, not the registered keeper so could complicate insurance quotes and make them more expensive?)
2. The MOT is due in about a month or so, if I go the V62 route and request a new V5/logbook rather than wait that can take 4-6 weeks to show up so I might have trouble getting it MOT'd? Also,. he'll have to sign off on the V62 and reply to the DVLA (not that I have any reason to think he'll rip me off, he seems pretty well off - but for all I know he made all his money or car scams, ha!). Finally if the car had outstanding finance (not that I have any reason to think that's the case, but who knows?) from what I've read I could lose the vehicle and even be arrested if the previous-owner/financiers report it (as it would technically be stolen)?
Thanks for all your help and advice so far guys!
I am waiting for the V5 to come back so I can fill out the green slip with him, yes.
It's going to cost me pretty much all my money, so I'm nervous to not do it all 100% legit! - I do need it for getting to work because my old car is knackered, so the idea of DVLA delays is somewhat worrying.
Thanks Magic919:
He seems a nice enough bloke, private sale so I met him at his massive house (he has a few quid).
Things I'm worried about with doing it right-away are:
1. The legals; if I get snapped on a speed cam (he'll end up getting the ticket?) getting pulled over (they might think the vehicle is stolen as I'll not be the registered keeper) and insurance (again, not the registered keeper so could complicate insurance quotes and make them more expensive?)
2. The MOT is due in about a month or so, if I go the V62 route and request a new V5/logbook rather than wait that can take 4-6 weeks to show up so I might have trouble getting it MOT'd? Also,. he'll have to sign off on the V62 and reply to the DVLA (not that I have any reason to think he'll rip me off, he seems pretty well off - but for all I know he made all his money or car scams, ha!). Finally if the car had outstanding finance (not that I have any reason to think that's the case, but who knows?) from what I've read I could lose the vehicle and even be arrested if the previous-owner/financiers report it (as it would technically be stolen)?
Thanks for all your help and advice so far guys!
Mine was 2 weeks, suppose they have to say 5 weeks to cover postal delays, bank holidays ect
"1. The legals; if I get snapped on a speed cam (he'll end up getting the ticket?) getting pulled over (they might think the vehicle is stolen as I'll not be the registered keeper) and insurance (again, not the registered keeper so could complicate insurance quotes and make them more expensive?)"
Don't exceed the limit? Always a good idea to take it easy with a car you are not familiar with at first IMHO
As long as you have valid insurance and MOT the police would have no reason to pull you, and if they do and you have the bill of sale it will not be a problem (from my experience anyway). Not a problem getting insurance, otherwise how would anyone be able to buy a car as it is always in someone else's name when you buy it.
"2. The MOT is due in about a month or so, if I go the V62 route and request a new V5/logbook rather than wait that can take 4-6 weeks to show up so I might have trouble getting it MOT'd? Also,. he'll have to sign off on the V62 and reply to the DVLA (not that I have any reason to think he'll rip me off, he seems pretty well off - but for all I know he made all his money or car scams, ha!). Finally if the car had outstanding finance (not that I have any reason to think that's the case, but who knows?) from what I've read I could lose the vehicle and even be arrested if the previous-owner/financiers report it (as it would technically be stolen)?"
Never been asked for any documents when getting a car MOTed.
If you have a bill of sale you should be reasonably ok legally, would make sure you get a witness if you are unsure.
http://www.google.co.uk/#q=text+check+stolen+car there are plenty of companies that will check the car for a small fee for being written off, on finance or stolen, see link For the sake of £3 well worth it and comes off your phone bill (if on contract)
"1. The legals; if I get snapped on a speed cam (he'll end up getting the ticket?) getting pulled over (they might think the vehicle is stolen as I'll not be the registered keeper) and insurance (again, not the registered keeper so could complicate insurance quotes and make them more expensive?)"
Don't exceed the limit? Always a good idea to take it easy with a car you are not familiar with at first IMHO
As long as you have valid insurance and MOT the police would have no reason to pull you, and if they do and you have the bill of sale it will not be a problem (from my experience anyway). Not a problem getting insurance, otherwise how would anyone be able to buy a car as it is always in someone else's name when you buy it.
"2. The MOT is due in about a month or so, if I go the V62 route and request a new V5/logbook rather than wait that can take 4-6 weeks to show up so I might have trouble getting it MOT'd? Also,. he'll have to sign off on the V62 and reply to the DVLA (not that I have any reason to think he'll rip me off, he seems pretty well off - but for all I know he made all his money or car scams, ha!). Finally if the car had outstanding finance (not that I have any reason to think that's the case, but who knows?) from what I've read I could lose the vehicle and even be arrested if the previous-owner/financiers report it (as it would technically be stolen)?"
Never been asked for any documents when getting a car MOTed.
If you have a bill of sale you should be reasonably ok legally, would make sure you get a witness if you are unsure.
http://www.google.co.uk/#q=text+check+stolen+car there are plenty of companies that will check the car for a small fee for being written off, on finance or stolen, see link For the sake of £3 well worth it and comes off your phone bill (if on contract)
Edited by JagXJR on Saturday 7th September 11:39
Thanks Searider
- Did you meet at his home address?
I did, a massive house in a nice area outside of London with a 3 year old Merc parked next to the car I want to but off him.
- Does he seem genuine?
He seems a decent retired gent, mentioned he had been talking to Audi about getting a new Audi A5 to replace the one I'm trying to buy.
- I guided the question is "can you trust him?"
Well, when you're spending pretty much every penny you have and it's several grand, can you really trust anyone you've just met? Haha!
- Did you meet at his home address?
I did, a massive house in a nice area outside of London with a 3 year old Merc parked next to the car I want to but off him.
- Does he seem genuine?
He seems a decent retired gent, mentioned he had been talking to Audi about getting a new Audi A5 to replace the one I'm trying to buy.
- I guided the question is "can you trust him?"
Well, when you're spending pretty much every penny you have and it's several grand, can you really trust anyone you've just met? Haha!
Sold a plate recently. Took 2 weeks to get the new V5C back and the MOT and tax disc came back 2 weeks after that. Recently moved house and posted 2 retention certs on the same day to have the address amended. One came back after 2 weeks, the second took 4 weeks.
Doesn't seem to follow any pattern.
Doesn't seem to follow any pattern.
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