tyre speed ratings?
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gaz1234

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5,233 posts

250 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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bought an H (i think) rating tyre online for my GF to fit this morning at national tyres autocenter (or close to) and they said that the tyre is a speed rating too fast and could invalidate her insurance.
i text her to say fit it or leave as a spare. not sure what she has done as yet..

Just wondered if the garage is correct or not?

tyre 185x70x14

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

185 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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As long as the speed rating is the same or higher than OEM, then it's fine as far as I know.

carl_w

10,792 posts

289 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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SonicShadow said:
As long as the speed rating is the same or higher than OEM, then it's fine as far as I know.
This.

Riley Blue

23,212 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Ask your GF for the number of the tyre fitting centre and speak to them yourself.

Laurel Green

31,265 posts

263 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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gaz1234 said:
bought an H (i think) rating tyre online for my GF to fit this morning at national tyres autocenter (or close to) and they said that the tyre is a speed rating too fast and could invalidate her insurance.
i text her to say fit it or leave as a spare. not sure what she has done as yet..

Just wondered if the garage is correct or not?
The only way it could invalidate her insurance, is, perhaps, by not notifying the insurance company of the 'modification' by fitting of the upgraded tyre. IMO.

Raize

1,476 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Fast speed rating suggests you intend to speed.
Speeding will cause an accident and a claim.
Therefore your insurance is invalid.

Riley Blue

23,212 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Raize said:
Fast speed rating suggests you intend to speed.
Speeding will cause an accident and a claim.
Therefore your insurance is invalid.
Quoted for posterity 'cos my 50 year old Riley has tyres rated to 130mph.

shakindog

514 posts

181 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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As long as speed ratings are the same or higher than what's fitted will be fine. Also must be same speed/load rating on the same axle

750turbo

6,164 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Raize said:
Fast speed rating suggests you intend to speed.
Speeding will cause an accident and a claim.
Therefore your insurance is invalid.
"Jesus Christ"

leafspring

7,032 posts

168 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Riley Blue said:
Raize said:
Fast speed rating suggests you intend to speed.
Speeding will cause an accident and a claim.
Therefore your insurance is invalid.
Quoted for posterity 'cos my 50 year old Riley has tyres rated to 130mph.
Ditto for our 1960 Land Rover with tyres rated at 112mph hehe


Edited by leafspring on Saturday 7th September 15:08

Laurel Green

31,265 posts

263 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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750turbo said:
Raize said:
Fast speed rating suggests you intend to speed.
Speeding will cause an accident and a claim.
Therefore your insurance is invalid.
"Jesus Christ"
I think the above was said with a tad of tongue-in-cheek. At least I hope it was. biggrin

750turbo

6,164 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Laurel Green said:
750turbo said:
Raize said:
Fast speed rating suggests you intend to speed.
Speeding will cause an accident and a claim.
Therefore your insurance is invalid.
"Jesus Christ"
I think the above was said with a tad of tongue-in-cheek. At least I hope it was. biggrin
It was, it was... wink

littleredrooster

6,413 posts

227 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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God almighty. I despair at the utter twaddle spouted on PH these days.

Insurance companies cannot dictate what an owner puts on his car; incorrect speed ratings on tyres do not in themselves invalidate cover - the only requirement is the minimum tread depth.

kambites

71,668 posts

252 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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As above, there's no such thing as the speed rating being "too high". If it was too low and she had an accident as a result of a tyre failure, they'd probably (reasonably enough) refuse to pay out.

Riley Blue

23,212 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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littleredrooster said:
God almighty. I despair at the utter twaddle spouted on PH these days.

Insurance companies cannot dictate what an owner puts on his car; incorrect speed ratings on tyres do not in themselves invalidate cover - the only requirement is the minimum tread depth.
I don't think you're correct about tread depth being the only requirement regarding tyres but I'll leave you to check whether you're writing utter twaddle or not.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

243 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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shakindog said:
As long as speed ratings are the same or higher than what's fitted will be fine. Also must be same speed/load rating on the same axle
What a tyre fitter at local branch of a nationwide tyre place told me . I had only had mine a few weeks when I found a sidewal bulge on the front . New tyre needed . He was amazed to see that origonals were lowest rating.( OK- that was still over NSL limit) That was two new ones at a higher rating. He NEVER stocked my rting. His advice was to aa few ratings higher .Same price ( possibly a few pounds more) , but IMHO worth it . Shame VAG don't think so .

hedges88

690 posts

176 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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[quote=Who me ?]
What a tyre fitter at local branch of a nationwide tyre place told me . I had only had mine a few weeks when I found a sidewal bulge on the front . New tyre needed . He was amazed to see that origonals were lowest rating.( OK- that was still over NSL limit) That was two new ones at a higher rating. He NEVER stocked my rting. His advice was to aa few ratings higher .Same price ( possibly a few pounds more) , but IMHO worth it . Shame VAG don't think so .

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Americans take this very seriously, a cars top speed is limited to it's tyre rating.

I found that VAG in Europe at least only fit an adequate speed rated tyre, I have seen examples of Skoda Octavia's on tyres rated at roughly the top speed of the vehicle. I have not found ones rated below this yet though

jon-

16,534 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Speed rating can be lower or higher than OE. Insurance companies can't do a thing.

Load rating is the important one. If the load rating is below the OE specification then the insurance companies can take issue.

This was discussed last year at depth in the winter tyre thread, and confirmed by the governing body.

gaz1234

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5,233 posts

250 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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as i thought...
load of bks

Riley Blue

23,212 posts

257 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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gaz1234 said:
as i thought...
load of bks
Not if the new tyre has a different speed rating from the one on the other wheel on that axle.


Edited by Riley Blue on Sunday 8th September 15:55