Why is this 964 not on plastic injection ?
Why is this 964 not on plastic injection ?
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graemel

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7,225 posts

246 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
I am very puzzled.
Looks a very tidy car and ideal for the missus. Auto license only.
Good spec with cruise and air but a 1993 964 should be running plastic injection surely or am I going mad

RichwiththeS2000

443 posts

163 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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Plastic injection? u wot m8

mr pg

2,066 posts

234 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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RichwiththeS2000 said:
Plastic injection? u wot m8
He's referring to the inlet pipes, which on this car are still the original cast version rather than the later plastic ones.

BertBert

21,262 posts

240 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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Plenum?

graemel

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7,225 posts

246 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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Yes sorry. The intake manifolds on the early 964's were cast ali. From 1991 I believe they went to plastic. Just puzzled as this is supposed to be a 1993 car

ras62

1,115 posts

185 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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The year of registration and the year of build are likely 1993 and 1990! Bear in mind there was a severe recession during this period where the Porsche simply could not sell cars so it is quite possible to have had a 1990 built car sitting awaiting its new owner for a couple of years..Chassis number will reveal all.

graemel

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7,225 posts

246 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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Good point Ras. I was thinking along the same lines or perhaps an import. White was not the in colour back then so maybe it hung around a while but a good spec car. I don't think there is a lot of difference in performance between the two. I seem to remember the plastic injection cars had some sort of basic varioram system fitted. Apart from that and possibly smaller rear calipers I think that is about it. It has been a tough couple of years but it's about time I got Kerry back into a Porsche. She better bloody well use this one. They are asking strong money but I'll make a phone call tomorrow.

ras62

1,115 posts

185 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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Looks like a nice car albeit strong money. The early cars dont have the cylinder head sealing rings and there were lots of small changes each model year, but all the 964's have the induction valve system fitted both plastic and alloy intake.

Jimmy Riviera

283 posts

258 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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Plastic inlet manifolds save weight over the original aluminium versions. The throttle body associated with the plastic manifolds has a single butterfly, whereas that associated with the aluminium version has a dual butterfly. I understand there is some very minor performance gain from the the single butterfly version as there is less obstruction to the air mass being drawn through the motor but it is negligible.

Unless there is some story re the date of manufacture versus date of registration, a 1993 car should be running the plastic inlet manifold.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

262 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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£27k for a tip!?!

Crikey.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

262 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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£27k for a tip!?!

Crikey. It does look nice mind you.

Markh

2,781 posts

304 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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would say it is an earlier car it still has 'flag' mirrors and 16' D 90 wheels

BertBert

21,262 posts

240 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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OlberJ said:
£27k for a tip!?!

Crikey. It does look nice mind you.
Ahh yes the 964 Tip, the very car that taught me to hate Tips!

reedman

588 posts

223 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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ras62 said:
The year of registration and the year of build are likely 1993 and 1990! Bear in mind there was a severe recession during this period where the Porsche simply could not sell cars so it is quite possible to have had a 1990 built car sitting awaiting its new owner for a couple of years..Chassis number will reveal all.
Also car has brick mirrors and design 90 Alloys. 1990 Build possible 1991.

Chassis WP0ZZZ96ZMS400110 I've not 100% think 1991

James

porkey

630 posts

201 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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My 964 was 1989 and had a cast manifold. A chap I know had an early 1991 H plate car and that had a plastic manifold.

Wozy68

5,436 posts

199 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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If memory serves, 91 onwards models should have the rear seat release on the top of the seat, not the red locks between them. I wouldn't worry though, as another poster as correctly stated, many 964s were either registered years after build, and even some of the later vin number cars didn't have all the spec they were supposed too. Rough times indeed for Porsche, and most supposed upgraded spec were not automatically fitted when expected too.
The correct VIN does not always mean that the spec is correct.

Zingari

946 posts

202 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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That is top top money for a Tip. Very nice though. I wonder if the AC still works? Judging by the size of the compressor it has the potential to freeze your knackers off.

Wozy68

5,436 posts

199 months

Tuesday 10th September 2013
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Zingari said:
That is top top money for a Tip. Very nice though. I wonder if the AC still works? Judging by the size of the compressor it has the potential to freeze your knackers off.
I was Porsche at the Castle on Sunday and PS had a C2 manual in black, 116K miles, cracked rear lens, faded other lenses, side skirt unclipped, rust bubble on the rear lid corner, and though good interior, it was not the best of colours.

Price, 27K. yikes Aving a giraffe mate. 964 prices are off the scale.

TB993tt

2,077 posts

270 months

Tuesday 10th September 2013
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porkey said:
My 964 was 1989 and had a cast manifold. A chap I know had an early 1991 H plate car and that had a plastic manifold.
Don't forget it is possible that cast manifold cars may have had the plastic one retrofitted as performance enhancement at some stage - I did with a '91 many years ago...