XF4.2 supercharged or CLS 55?
XF4.2 supercharged or CLS 55?
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WTFWT

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872 posts

254 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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The arrival of my baby daughter has thrown my car buying radar into turmoil! I need something practical and fast, but wafty too. I am not finding this easy.

I have tried an S8 V10 but there are very few for sale and I wasn't totally convinced by the ride quality.

I've always thought the CLS looked pretty special and the 55 sounds fantastic too. Again there aren't many about, but this has caught my eye:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...
I'm not convinced by the wood trim though. I am also worried about the potential for big bills. Justifiably?

Having never considered a Jag, I was invited on a driving day recently where they had XKs, XJs and XFs and I was really impressed. All 3 cars drove beautifully and I like the look too. XFRs seem out of my price range, but the SV8 probably delivers the waft I want with the right amount of shove.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...

I will probably own either one for a year to 18 months until child 2 arrives. So, which one will prove less likely to go wrong and prove the more satisfying to own?

Edited by WTFWT on Monday 9th September 19:37

R6VED

1,493 posts

171 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I am about 7 months ahead of you with my daughter and had to get rid of my TTR I got a CLS 500 and removed the exhaust resonator so it now sounds similar to the AMG model, mine has all the kit inc the AMG staggered 19's and body kit = love it

Charlie

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

171 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I'd be less worried about big bills from the Jag than from the Merc tbh.

R6VED

1,493 posts

171 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I am about 7 months ahead of you with my daughter and had to get rid of my TTR I got a CLS 500 and removed the exhaust resonator so it now sounds similar to the AMG model, mine has all the kit inc the AMG staggered 19's and body kit = love it

Charlie

R6VED

1,493 posts

171 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I am about 7 months ahead of you with my daughter and had to get rid of my TTR I got a CLS 500 and removed the exhaust resonator so it now sounds similar to the AMG model, mine has all the kit inc the AMG staggered 19's and body kit = love it

Charlie

R6VED

1,493 posts

171 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I am about 7 months ahead of you with my daughter and had to get rid of my TTR I got a CLS 500 and removed the exhaust resonator so it now sounds similar to the AMG model, mine has all the kit inc the AMG staggered 19's and body kit = love it

Charlie

giblet

9,157 posts

208 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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My vote would be for an approved used SV8, my brother bought one earlier on in the year and it fits the bill as a comfy car with plenty of poke whilst still being sensible enough to lug all the child related crap in the boot for my one and a half year old nephew. The Jaguar warranty would give you peace of mind

sparkyhx

4,200 posts

235 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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there's an echo in here

Edited by sparkyhx on Monday 9th September 20:56

WTFWT

Original Poster:

872 posts

254 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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jamieduff1981 said:
I'd be less worried about big bills from the Jag than from the Merc tbh.
Yeah, my gut tells me the same.

R6, how has your 500 been in the 7 months you've had it? Unexpected bills? What is the mileage? Thanks

itz_baseline

836 posts

252 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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Love the CLS as its a less obvious car IMO. Have looked at them recently but not sure i would have the guts in case something big went wrong. Plus if you look at other AMGs its going to keep dropping until its worth peanuts.

Anyone have any first hand experience with running one and the costs?

vinnie83

3,367 posts

224 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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itz_baseline said:
Love the CLS as its a less obvious car IMO. Have looked at them recently but not sure i would have the guts in case something big went wrong. Plus if you look at other AMGs its going to keep dropping until its worth peanuts.

Anyone have any first hand experience with running one and the costs?
Apparently the E55 AMG is practically the same car underneath, and I ran one for about 2 years.

I had a 2003 car with about 40k miles IIRC and did about 15k miles in my ownership. Mine was MB dealer supplied, with full warranty. And wasn't I glad of it! That car was in and out of the dealerships for various things.

I really would be quite worried of running one without the warranty.

Worth mentioning that I still feel that my 997 turbo is no faster in a straight line than my E55 was.

T1547

1,247 posts

165 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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Haven't driven either I'm afraid but running costs aside the CLS is just such a good looking car and especially in 55 spec seems a lot more special and exclusive than the Jag. The one in the advert appears to be a good example too.

I'll have mine in black please thumbup

donshl

1 posts

159 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I've had my CLS55 for nearly two years now.

Only major repair was a replacement alternator, but this was due to some extenuating circumstances.

On the whole, very very happy with! Was planning to buy a M6 or M5 but after driving both, CLS55 was the clear winner for me.

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

258 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I bought a CLS 55AMG a few months ago. It's a pretty special piece of kit, and deceptively quick. I've only needed a service so far (touch wood!). I looked at a few, and there are some real dogs out there. Buy on condition, as always, and get a good test drive. Make sure everything works; electrics can be fragile, and will cost. I preferred the 55 to the 63, but not everyone will agree. There again, I'm a sucker for a supercharger.

Not sure they'll depreciate like other AMG's, as there aren't that many about, but that's probably wishful thinking.

EddieFelson

1,168 posts

245 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I ended up with an E39 M5 in a similar position, although I can see how you can take a shine to the SV8..

slippery

14,093 posts

270 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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Both great cars. The CLS is a strange thing. Sometimes I look at them and think they are stunning, then on other occasions I think to opposite. If I'm honest, I think the E55 is a handsome car, if not as dramatic in the looks department. E55 estate perhaps? smile

WTFWT

Original Poster:

872 posts

254 months

Tuesday 10th September 2013
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T1547 said:
Haven't driven either I'm afraid but running costs aside the CLS is just such a good looking car and especially in 55 spec seems a lot more special and exclusive than the Jag. The one in the advert appears to be a good example too.

I'll have mine in black please thumbup
That's my thought process entirely. Merc is probably more of a risk, but more of a car too. You would turn back to look at the Merc whereas the Jag may be that bit more forgettable.

Hmmm

Krikkit

27,939 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2013
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I think the SV8 is probably the best option, but I do love the looks of the CLS. Dark exterior with light interior = cloud9 for me.

Ellieb10

63 posts

184 months

Tuesday 10th September 2013
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I've found kids, even very very little ones, like looking out windows. That would rule out both for me. I'm looking for an e55 wagon for similar reasons (waftyish, fast, more reliable than a B5, newer than my B10). I spoke with an ex jag engineer who reckons the SV8 engine is a peach. The guy worked on it's development and reckoned it was one of his all time favorites. However, modifications do bad things to insurance premiums I'm told.

Diderot

9,706 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th September 2013
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I had a 58 plate SV8 4 years ago or so for about 4 months, then p/x'ed it for an 07 XKR (I got bored and didn't need the extra space). The SV8 was very good overall, the interior was brilliant, gearbox and paddle setup excellent, but the seats were woefully bad - no support whatsoever. Not sure they ever got the later sports seats ... That would be a deal breaker for me.