white smoke diesel
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smiffy180

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6,029 posts

181 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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I've read up on it and that it could be a few things, from checking the video can anyone point me into the right direction rather than buying parts and hoping it works?

It only happens overnight after car has cooled down

Recently had dpf removed and only noticed it since then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L287G-IT4wA&fe...

Cheers

wolf1

3,103 posts

281 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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Did the garage remap the ecu to delete the dpf programming? If not it'll still be trying to regenerate hence the white smoke when it injects extra fuel for the regen.

smiffy180

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181 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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wolf1 said:
Did the garage remap the ecu to delete the dpf programming? If not it'll still be trying to regenerate hence the white smoke when it injects extra fuel for the regen.
Yes they did

Mikey G

4,900 posts

271 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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wolf1 said:
Did the garage remap the ecu to delete the dpf programming? If not it'll still be trying to regenerate hence the white smoke when it injects extra fuel for the regen.
It wont be trying to regen from a cold start rolleyes

And in answer to the question, it could be unburnt fuel, it starts up nicely though.

Edited by Mikey G on Monday 9th September 19:47

wolf1

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281 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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Mikey G said:
It wont be trying to regen from a cold start rolleyes
So rather than being a dick as I missed the bit re it being a cold start you could possibly actualy contribute.

OP get a leakdown test done on the injectors. Valve stem oil seals may be worn also.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

209 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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Does it use much oil ?

What car is it ? - Fiat 2.0 diesel smile

As above, either there is an oil leak into the cylinders via the valve steam oil seals, the turbo seals are leaking slightly once everything is cooled down or one or more of the injectors is leaking very slightly.

Monitor the oil level for 1k and see how much is uses smile



Edited by Jimmyarm on Monday 9th September 19:59

smiffy180

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181 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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Leakdown test? I assume any garage can do this?

It's a 09 fiat bravo 2.0 diesel
Checked oil a few days ago as I thought it was blue smoke and it's fine

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

209 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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smiffy180 said:
Leakdown test? I assume any garage can do this?

It's a 09 fiat bravo 2.0 diesel
Checked oil a few days ago as I thought it was blue smoke and it's fine
If its not using any oil don't bother with a leakdown test, take it to a diesel specialist and get them to check the injectors.

fjord

2,143 posts

168 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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My 320d does this every morning, and has done for the last 12 months confused

Saying that, it has used a dipsticks worth of oil in about 5000 miles.

Im guessing this is not normal...

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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My guess is one or more failed glow plugs.

smiffy180

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Monday 9th September 2013
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Jimmyarm said:
If its not using any oil don't bother with a leakdown test, take it to a diesel specialist and get them to check the injectors.
Hmmmmm. There is a possibility it is using some oil but I haven't noticed. I'll check again in morning as tbf it was serviced about 3 month ago.

If that fails I'll find a diesel specialist like you suggest

smiffy180

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Monday 9th September 2013
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wormus said:
My guess is one or more failed glow plugs.
This was my first thought but it hasn't been cold enough to see if it struggles to start yet

smiffy180

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181 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Just thought I'd bump this, went to a garage and had a chat about the car and dpf delete etc. They said it's nothing to worry about, suggested its because the dpf has been deleted that the smoke has appeared.

S0 What

3,358 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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That's how mine (totaly differant car, older but still a TD) looks cos it has a glow plug down but it also misses, it stops smoking as soon as the missing stops, does your miss whilst smoking ?

smiffy180

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181 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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S0 What said:
That's how mine (totaly differant car, older but still a TD) looks cos it has a glow plug down but it also misses, it stops smoking as soon as the missing stops, does your miss whilst smoking ?
Sounds perfectly fine to me?
If it struggles in winter I'll know what problem is then (hopefully)

Rumple

15,309 posts

182 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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Diesels white smoke when they are cold, there is nothing wrong with your car.

vrooom

3,763 posts

298 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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Buy petrol engined car. That should solve your problem smile

Monty Python

4,813 posts

228 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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Rumple said:
Diesels white smoke when they are cold, there is nothing wrong with your car.
White smoke on start-up is not normal. It's an indication that raw diesel is coming through the exhaust.

http://www.costeffective.com.au/news_show.php?Stor...

http://www.fourthgen.net/diesel-white-smoke.shtml


BGarside

1,568 posts

168 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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White smoke = unburned diesel. I can only think of:

i) Failed glow plug/s - White smoke should abate fairly quickly after cold start. Solution to test glow plugs & replace any not working properly.
ii) Condensation rather than smoke - sorry I can't view video here (work) so not sure what smoke looks like, but moisture in the exhaust from cold, more apparent on damp/cold days.
iii) Fuel atomisation problem - e.g: Injector blockage/wear/fuel pressure inadequate. Get injectors tested and cleaned.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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Ignore the calls that it's oil, they're wrong. Oil smoke is blue, not white. I'd suggest a leaky/sticky injector perhaps? If it runs alright then I probably wouldn't worry too much about it.