A question of future value
A question of future value
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RGambo

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883 posts

198 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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I'm starting to have thoughts of a GT3, probably a 997. So here's my question and I hope it is taken the right way.(i.e not trolling)
Given that there appears to be a massive trend towards people HAVING to have a warrantee on their USED car these days and Porsche all of a suddenly kicking off about overrevs, will you be in a position if you have overrevs recorded on you car that it will become unsalable or it's value affected due to this?
I only ask, as if i look at one, use it on track and hit the limetter on up shifts or down shifts, I could end up with a car that I can't move on. Just to finish, I am on the side of NOT purchasing warantees and keeping a fixing fund.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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on a GT3 hitting the limiter will got give you over revs

RGambo

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883 posts

198 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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That's good to know.

agtlaw

7,403 posts

235 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Range 1 is 9000-9200 rpm
Rev limit is 8400 rpm.

Skittles001

671 posts

292 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Plus having ignitions in RR1 and 2 are not a warranty issue (IIRC) it's only RR3 upwards.

freemax

160 posts

245 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Skittles001 said:
Plus having ignitions in RR1 and 2 are not a warranty issue (IIRC) it's only RR3 upwards.
Where does RR3 begin rpm-wise?

agtlaw

7,403 posts

235 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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RGambo

Original Poster:

883 posts

198 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Thanks for the replys, but its drifting off topic. I not concerned about 'how' the overrevs get there as such, its more the consequence of them being logged.
If i look at a car that has overevs reorded, do i walk away or haggle hard? If i buy one with them, will i be stuck with it?.
Or is it as i suspect, a load of bo!!0**s peddled by insurance salesmen!

BertBert

21,262 posts

240 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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So I think it'd be useful for you to understand what the rev ranges are on the 997 GT3 and what they mean. They essentially fall into two types. Those that get there through "normal" driving and hitting the rev limiter and then those higher ranges where the engine has been forced to turn too fast by (normally) changing down at too high a speed for the gear selected (eg selecting third from 6th when 5th was the right gear).

And to try and answer your question, if you drive "normally and don't get any mechanical over-revs and only get a normal amount of rev-limiter activity, then all is fine for future resale.

In a simplistic sense, if you buzz the engine, you have dented the value of the car. Of course you may also have knackered the engine too.

Now there are still going to be buyers. Once time has elapsed after the event and perhaps after a leak-down test, (some) people will be ok to buy a car with a buzzed engine. But there are less buyers and a stigma. That can only be detrimental to values.

Nothing to do with insurance salesmen I'm afraid!
Bert

nsm3

2,831 posts

225 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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I should clarify - a 997 gen 1 GT3 doesn't record over revs in any range, by running into the limiter.

I did it plenty of times and always the DME showed no over rev activity.

All 6 ranges are for sloppy down changes.

Rockster

1,515 posts

189 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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RGambo said:
Thanks for the replys, but its drifting off topic. I not concerned about 'how' the overrevs get there as such, its more the consequence of them being logged.
If i look at a car that has overevs reorded, do i walk away or haggle hard? If i buy one with them, will i be stuck with it?.
Or is it as i suspect, a load of bo!!0**s peddled by insurance salesmen!
How hard can you haggle over over revs? Essentially you are saying the car's worth less because of the over revs but you still want to buy it.

As long as the over revs were some time ago, and not of the severe type, and the engine (and the car) comes up aces after a good test ride and drive, buy the car. As long as you do not add to the upper over rev range counts and take good care of the car the over revs that were there long before you bought the car count for nothing.