Why such a price difference on different size tyre?
Why such a price difference on different size tyre?
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sat1983

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1,253 posts

215 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Wanting some 17" winter tyres for my Polo and the cost for a good tyre is roughly £100+
Comparing this to people spending about this for 4 tyres on the winter tyre thread!

This question also clearly applies to all other tyres- the cost to manufacture different sizes surely is roughly the same?

sat1983

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1,253 posts

215 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Well...£140 for 14" Falkens- stated on today's last page of the winter tyre thread!

MrGman

1,668 posts

237 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Is it not just to do with how many they run in certain sizes, for example a tyre company will make a lot more 225/45/18 tyres than they will a 235/45/18 so you'll have to pay a premium for the less produced tyre.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

294 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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The most common sizes are cheaper as are smaller tyres (in popular sizes)

Not sure how this comes as a surprise.


Jakg

4,058 posts

199 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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MrGman said:
Is it not just to do with how many they run in certain sizes, for example a tyre company will make a lot more 225/45/18 tyres than they will a 235/45/18 so you'll have to pay a premium for the less produced tyre.
A much better example is 225/45/18 (fairly rare, only really on some BMWs / MGs / Saabs) is around £110-£120 a corner.

225/40/18 (slightly smaller sidewall) is £70 a corner - because it's one of the most popular 18" tyre sizes (inc most 18" Golfs for example).

Economies of scale.

DonkeyApple

70,725 posts

200 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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As an aside. Rather than playing guessing games with various tyre websites, does anyone know the cheapest, high rated, 4x4 size?

The reason I ask is that I'm going to be fitting new wheels to a Rangie Classic. They will be at least 17" in order to accept larger brakes than the standard Classic.

I don't want to go much wider than 200 but having had one Classic that ran on Avon TurboSpeeds costing nearly £2k for 5 I am keen to select the most common wheel size in that sector so as to not get nailed on tyres.

inman999

34,954 posts

204 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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I think the mark up on anything roughly 17in and over must be significant. 14in tyres for the Aygo are between £25 and £50. The OE continental's can be had for under £40 a corner. I can't believe it costs 3x as much to make the 17 or 18 in version.

DonkeyApple

70,725 posts

200 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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inman999 said:
I think the mark up on anything roughly 17in and over must be significant. 14in tyres for the Aygo are between £25 and £50. The OE continental's can be had for under £40 a corner. I can't believe it costs 3x as much to make the 17 or 18 in version.
But think about all those third world st heaps needing tyres and you can see that globally the demand for the smaller sizes must be magnitudes bigger than the larger sizes?

The Big G

1,004 posts

199 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Try hunting for 265/40/17's, I'm just thankfull if I can get more than a choice of a couple of tyres, let alone the price. Count yourself lucky! Seems I have one of the only cars that requires them and BMW didn't mske too many frown

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

180 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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I wish I only paid £100 per corner... At the veru least I do double that...

sat1983

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215 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Still don't get it. Whatever's needed to 'build' a 17" tyres cannot cost 3x as much as producing a 14" tyre.
We're talking tyres here- not some rare object!

DonkeyApple

70,725 posts

200 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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sat1983 said:
Still don't get it. Whatever's needed to 'build' a 17" tyres cannot cost 3x as much as producing a 14" tyre.
We're talking tyres here- not some rare object!
It's all about volumes. You need a higher margin on the lower volume product.

They aren't going to cost much more to make but you are going to sell fewer of them.

How many 14" wheels do you suspect there are on the planet in contrast to 17"?

And then add to that the fact that you can also add a premium as someone with 17" wheels has more money.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

242 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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sat1983 said:
Still don't get it. Whatever's needed to 'build' a 17" tyres cannot cost 3x as much as producing a 14" tyre.
We're talking tyres here- not some rare object!
A 14" tyre will have a lower speed rating and be made of cheaper materials as a result. It needs bigger tools to make it, and does use a chunk more materials as it is wider as well, and economies of scale make a big difference to production costs.

Stuartggray

7,703 posts

259 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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If your car will accept 15" steel wheels, ie. fit over the brakes, you will get the cheapest tyres going. If not , expect higher prices.

Stuartggray

7,703 posts

259 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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If your car will accept 15" steel wheels, ie. fit over the brakes, you will get the cheapest tyres going. If not , expect higher prices.

sat1983

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1,253 posts

215 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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I suppose! But to treble or quadruple the price is milking it somewhat! I think 15s would cover the brakes but would look a tad silly. 16s could be a decent compromise!