Octane Booster
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mph

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2,376 posts

311 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Does anyone use this stuff and if so which one is recommended ?

I ask because my air-cooled Porsche requires Super unleaded and I thought I'd carry a bottle of octane booster in case I get caught out with fuel availability.


Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Castrol Valvemaster & Octane Booster always used to work on my Midget years ago. I was surprised to find I could feel the lack of power if I run without it.

bstark

204 posts

162 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Yep, Castrol as above.

Use it in our Midget and Fiat 500 with normal unleaded as a matter of course and carry a bottle in the xflow powered Caterham in case Shell V-Power (or whatever it's called these days) is not available.

Have had to resort to that on track before when their local station didn't carry high octane stuff - was absolutely fine thumbup

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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What octane rating is required? I only ask because Tesco Momentum is 99RON and worth considering in addition to Shell.

benjj

6,787 posts

192 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Exaxctly as above. My '81 Porsche (that I rally) says specifically in the handbook it is tuned to run on a MINIMUM of 98RON, that writes off many of the 'premium' fuels if one's going to be picky.

In practice I use Tesco Momentum 99 when available and make up 2 pre-mixed 5l cans when rallying usin whatever I can get in the wilds of Scotland/France/wherever mixed with Castrol booster.

Works just fine but I prefer to use the Castrol as an emergency measure rather than day to day. Don't know why, probably all in my head.

Poison Tom 96

2,098 posts

160 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Another shout for Castrol here, used in our Morris Minors...

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Poison Tom 96 said:
Another shout for Castrol here, used in our Morris Minors...
Why would you need an octane booster in a Morris Minor?

Lead replacement I can understand, but an octane booster?

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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SV8Predator said:
Poison Tom 96 said:
Another shout for Castrol here, used in our Morris Minors...
Why would you need an octane booster in a Morris Minor?

Lead replacement I can understand, but an octane booster?
Stops pinking with the engine set to the original timing as 4star was higher octane than normal unleaded. That's why I used it in my Midget & the engines aren't that different.

Also the Valve master & octane booster is actually one thing, it does both so hard to only use part of it wink

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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Hooli said:
Stops pinking with the engine set to the original timing as 4star was higher octane than normal unleaded. That's why I used it in my Midget & the engines aren't that different.

Also the Valve master & octane booster is actually one thing, it does both so hard to only use part of it wink
I don't see Castrol Valvemaster being marketed as an octane booster, and alternatives such as Redex RDX18 are certainly not octane boosters.

And the standard engine in a Morris Minor was never designed to run on 4-star, so it doesn't need an octane booster.

mph

Original Poster:

2,376 posts

311 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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SV8Predator said:
I don't see Castrol Valvemaster being marketed as an octane booster, and alternatives such as Redex RDX18 are certainly not octane boosters.

And the standard engine in a Morris Minor was never designed to run on 4-star, so it doesn't need an octane booster.
Castrol Valvemaster Plus is an octane booster, I've just bought a bottle today.

http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Fi...

nta16

7,898 posts

263 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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in tests a few years back it was found that few off the shelf octane boosters helped the car tested (IIRC Castrol wasn't tested) and some even were to the detriment

check the octane rating required for the car and if a lower octane can be used, if only restrictedly, or if your car can be adjusted to run on the lower octane

another vote for Tesco 99 (and Shell V-Power Nitro+ if on special offer) or third choice BP Ultimate or any other 97 octane petrol - it's not just the octane increase but also the cleaning qualities of the first three that help (if you don't believe me or them that's fine and your choice, I believe it), very noticeable if you run a diesel too

my Midget is set up for 95 octane but runs better (perhaps a placebo?) on Tesco or Shell (I've a 123 fully electronic dissy)

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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mph said:
Castrol Valvemaster Plus is an octane booster, I've just bought a bottle today.
Are you using it for your Morris Minor?

mph

Original Poster:

2,376 posts

311 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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SV8Predator said:
Are you using it for your Morris Minor?
Absolutely.

I've had to since I fitted that V12 engine smile

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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SV8Predator said:
I don't see Castrol Valvemaster being marketed as an octane booster
When I used to buy it, there was a version with octane booster & one without. I never actually saw the one without for sale though, so I just assumed it was all they sold now.

BobTurner

405 posts

239 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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benjj said:
Exaxctly as above. My '81 Porsche (that I rally) says specifically in the handbook it is tuned to run on a MINIMUM of 98RON, that writes off many of the 'premium' fuels if one's going to be picky.

In practice I use Tesco Momentum 99 when available and make up 2 pre-mixed 5l cans when rallying usin whatever I can get in the wilds of Scotland/France/wherever mixed with Castrol booster.

Works just fine but I prefer to use the Castrol as an emergency measure rather than day to day. Don't know why, probably all in my head.
I have thought about the Tesco fuel but seem to recall that there may be issues around the ethanol content when used in older Porsches; there is a list of cars affected, compiled by the factory, but can't presently find it. I think BP Ultimate has next to no ethanol in it, so I tend to seek that out.

benjj

6,787 posts

192 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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BobTurner said:
benjj said:
Exaxctly as above. My '81 Porsche (that I rally) says specifically in the handbook it is tuned to run on a MINIMUM of 98RON, that writes off many of the 'premium' fuels if one's going to be picky.

In practice I use Tesco Momentum 99 when available and make up 2 pre-mixed 5l cans when rallying usin whatever I can get in the wilds of Scotland/France/wherever mixed with Castrol booster.

Works just fine but I prefer to use the Castrol as an emergency measure rather than day to day. Don't know why, probably all in my head.
I have thought about the Tesco fuel but seem to recall that there may be issues around the ethanol content when used in older Porsches; there is a list of cars affected, compiled by the factory, but can't presently find it. I think BP Ultimate has next to no ethanol in it, so I tend to seek that out.
I'd like to see that please!

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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That's the problem, the oil companies are seem very reluctant to put the actual formula for their fuels on their web pages so no one is able to make an evidence based decision on what to use. The BP Ultimate web page is full of PR waffle about cleaning and protecting but doesn't tell you what's in it.

So far I've found only Tesco gives this sort of information (for Momentum):
Methanol %(v/v)- 3.0
Ethanol %(v/v)- 5.0
Iso-propyl alcohol %(v/v) - 10.0
Iso-butyl alcohol %(v/v) - 10.0
Tert-butyl alcohol %(v/v) - 7.0
Ethers (5 or more C atoms) %(v/v) - 15.0
Other oxygenates %(v/v) - 10.0

As a result people 'seem to recall' or 'read somewhere' or 'saw on a forum' - Chinese whispers most of it.

Oil companies should be obliged to state what goes into their fuel.

mph

Original Poster:

2,376 posts

311 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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I've recently read that the premium fuels generally have little or no ethanol content except in Devon/Cornwall.

There's an octane booster, from Millers I think, that supposedly combats the effect of ethanol on classic cars.

Fiscracer

585 posts

239 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Millers CVL boosts octane and provides a mangeanese based lead substitute to protrct against valve seat recession. CVL Turbo is purely octane and adds 3-4 points IIRC

As used in my MGB, TVR and Marcos

BobTurner

405 posts

239 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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benjj said:
I'd like to see that please!
My summary wasn't quite accurate, but still happy with steering clear of the Tescos fuel for my old Porsches.

Useful article, fuel spec. and Porsche advice.

http://www.nfahc.co.uk/pdf_files/ethanol/ethanol%2...

http://www.tescopfs.com/momentum99/specifications

http://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/cl...