Strange oil pressure behaviour?
Strange oil pressure behaviour?
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Vee8ight

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734 posts

163 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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When my oil level gets down to the minimum, and I go round corners, my oil pressure goes down, but the light never came on, fill up with oil and all is good.

Last night when I was out my oil light was flickering and sometime coming on, but I still have 40 psi on the gauge. Not checked the level yet, was full before I went out.

Anyone else had this?

C3BER

4,714 posts

247 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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How often does it drop to its low level?

Don't believe the light and taking readings off the dip stick can be a black art.

You may have a lose connection and you maybe reading the level wrong.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

225 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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If the light comes on while you have good pressure on the mechanical gauge then suspect the sensor (conveniently hidden under the coil packs).

If the pressure on the gauge drops when cornering but is otherwise OK then you don't have enough oil in it regardless of what the dipstick says.

If the light comes on and the gauge drops then when it is full then hit the stop button sharpish and coast to a halt if need be.

Vee8ight

Original Poster:

734 posts

163 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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C3BER said:
How often does it drop to its low level?

Don't believe the light and taking readings off the dip stick can be a black art.

You may have a lose connection and you maybe reading the level wrong.
Depends how I've been driving it wink. The euro trip just gone it used 3l in 1100 miles! But that was all very enthusiastic driving! It doesn't usually use more than a litre per 2000 miles

Yeah I found out the dipstick can lie!

Vee8ight

Original Poster:

734 posts

163 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Tanguero said:
If the light comes on while you have good pressure on the mechanical gauge then suspect the sensor (conveniently hidden under the coil packs).

If the pressure on the gauge drops when cornering but is otherwise OK then you don't have enough oil in it regardless of what the dipstick says.

If the light comes on and the gauge drops then when it is full then hit the stop button sharpish and coast to a halt if need be.
The mech gauge was doing the normal stuff so I suspected the sender, ah another job to do at 12,000 service!

Does anyone know if the sump is baffled to stop the oil slopping everywhere?

ridds

8,366 posts

268 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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It can be a complete arse to get to as well if the bolts are stuck in the captive nuts.

They do fail fairly often.

As for the sump, pretty much nothing. They do have a rudimentary crank scraper but it's not fantastic.

Vee8ight

Original Poster:

734 posts

163 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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ridds said:
It can be a complete arse to get to as well if the bolts are stuck in the captive nuts.

They do fail fairly often.

As for the sump, pretty much nothing. They do have a rudimentary crank scraper but it's not fantastic.
Thanks. Does anyone modify them? or has anyone had theirs modified?

jonathantwidale

34 posts

242 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Not sure why you need to modify the sump as I do a lot of track days with race pads for hard braking and sticky track tyres in my west field. Never seen an oil pressure problem in this sort of use.

Vee8ight

Original Poster:

734 posts

163 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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jonathantwidale said:
Not sure why you need to modify the sump as I do a lot of track days with race pads for hard braking and sticky track tyres in my west field. Never seen an oil pressure problem in this sort of use.
Totally agree, never saw this problem in my track Clio, but this is a TVR! Lol

Tanguero

4,535 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Vee8ight said:
Totally agree, never saw this problem in my track Clio, but this is a TVR! Lol
You might want to look at what is powering jonathantwidale's Westfield... hehe

Vee8ight

Original Poster:

734 posts

163 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Tanguero said:
Vee8ight said:
Totally agree, never saw this problem in my track Clio, but this is a TVR! Lol
You might want to look at what is powering jonathantwidale's Westfield... hehe
OMG thats just stupid, lol.

Gazzab

21,579 posts

306 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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surely justs keeping oil at maximum is best for readings and engine wear.

Vee8ight

Original Poster:

734 posts

163 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Gazzab said:
surely justs keeping oil at maximum is best for readings and engine wear.
I do try but the dip stick keeps telling lies!

gruffalo

8,100 posts

250 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Best way to a good reading is to park on level ground and remove the dipstick, leave it over night and then dip once in the morning, any subsiquent dipping will tell lies just go with the first reading and adjust level accordingly.

This seems to work for me.

xia245

14 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Vee8ight, I'd agree that gauge is more likely to be correct than the switch. I haven't checked the wiring of oil pressure in my Cerb but the oil pressure switch normally would provide an earth to engine block when pressure is low, thereby turning on the oil pressure light. Might be a oil pressure switch failure, but knowing Cerbs and their habit of developing wiring faults, I'd start by checking the wiring between the oil pressure switch and the oil pressure light. If the insulation on wiring has rubbed through somewhere and is intermitently touching earthed metal that would explain the problem.

Before removing the switch, you could try checking the more obvious wiring around the engine for damage. Then disconnect the wiring at at the sensor end. From memory it's just about possible to get the connector off with your fingers without having to dismantle too much. If you still get an occasional light on, then it's a wiring fault. If not then it's probably the oil pressure switch.