pre to serp conversion

[Gary11]

Does anyone bother doing this if so I was wondering about the cost and parts list,was thinking of adding PAS otherwise I wouldnt bother (engine 430bv)

[Sardonicus]

Why don't you save yourself the bother and fit an electric PAS pump i.e Citroen Saxo Vauxhall Astra etc

[Chuffmeister]

Sardonicus said:

Why don't you save yourself the bother and fit an electric PAS pump i.e Citroen Saxo Vauxhall Astra etc

We're waiting for your detailed guide of how to do it!

[STE VR]

This may sound daft but I'm starting to want an original pre-serp, especially a 430BV. I would be very tempted to leave well alone. ( i completely understand the want for ps though). Just my thoughts.

[spend]

I've done it, not for PAS though..

Front Cover + ancilliaries (water pump, alt)

Balancer + harmonic damper + crank pulley (I made up all my own using fluid damper as a basis)

Crank needs keyway lengthening.

[Gary11]

yes I agree I think I'm going to leave this car alone I'm not even going to modify the wiper arms,there aren't many left!

[wuckfitracing]

Dont do it, the power steering/non power steering debate will fire up shortly. However our 430s are rare and ones in original condition are even rarer. Mine is a barsteward in a car park but otherwise is OK when driving without power steering.

[wuckfitracing]

Dont do it, the power steering/non power steering debate will fire up shortly. However our 430s are rare and ones in original condition are even rarer. Mine is a barsteward in a car park but otherwise is OK when driving without power steering.

[wuckfitracing]

Why does it keep double posting.

[Pupp]

wuckfitracing said:

Why does it keep double posting.

Dunno

[Pupp]

wuckfitracing said:

Why does it keep double posting.

Dunno

[phazed]

The quick fire humour on here is toi be commended.

That's all I got.

Oh, my pal Wadsapple had his preserp JE 5.2 converted to serp a few years ago, PM him for a cost shock!

[Gary11]

Thanks for all the replies I thought as much,agrovation x cost + rare car= leave well alone!
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[CHIMPDREAMER]

When were the PAS models introduced? Or, was it always an option? Can you get later models ('97+) without PAS?

I would rather purchase a Chim without than have constant problems with leaks, which I've read about.

[spend]

Always had possibility for PAS ~ there are pre-serps with the rover PAS pumps (thats what the 'spare' groove in the crank pulley was used for).

[phazed]

CHIMPDREAMER said:

I would rather purchase a Chim without than have constant problems with leaks, which I've read about.

Leaks are no more frequent then on any other 15 year old car.

If you have the choice, go PS, they are so much nicer to drive.

[Harrytsg]

CHIMPDREAMER said:

When were the PAS models introduced? Or, was it always an option? Can you get later models ('97+) without PAS?

I would rather purchase a Chim without than have constant problems with leaks, which I've read about.

Mines a 97(R) 450 without PAS

[CHIMPDREAMER]

Harrytsg said:

Mines a 97(R) 450 without PAS

And how do you find it? I'm sure you'll need to give it a bit more when parking, but I can live with that. How is it when on the move?

[phazed]

Anyone who has tried both and had the choice of both wouldn't go none PS, ( awaits call of the die hards with arms like tugboats ).

[Harrytsg]

CHIMPDREAMER said:

And how do you find it? I'm sure you'll need to give it a bit more when parking, but I can live with that. How is it when on the move?

Personally I dont mind it, but will admit to it being heavy to park, it's a daily driver so it can't be that bad and you get used to rolling the wheels and steering (I'm old enough to remember how to do this from when most cars didn't have PAS).
When your on the move there's no problems at all.