God I hate driving in Belgium
God I hate driving in Belgium
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Just finished driving from Sussex to southwest Germany-ish... Not a bad journey, 6 hours pretty much door to door. But.... God, I hate Belgium. From the tunnel you head towards Lille, and then after that as soon as you cross into Belgium is the sttiest bit of overgrown, potholed, crap motorway I've seen in my life. And the service stations, they're not worth stopping at since about the only thing they seem to provide is more potholes. Some rusty stuff, and the smell of wee. And the driving is terrible, tailgating, pulling out very late, just generally being a tt, etc.

Today I just decided not to stop in Belgium, and whilst it was a long drive from alias straight through to Luxembourg, it was totally worth it. I will be glad when I never have to return there. Sadly I'm going back tomorrow.

Oh yeah, I also saw a Luxembourg registered 'cayenne gt3'

jimmyone

954 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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are yousure it was Belgum
Not Brumagum !confused

Deerfoot

5,253 posts

214 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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I used to go through Antwerp quite regularly. You are correct about the motorways and service stations in Belgium, they're utter garbage.

Kolbenkopp

2,345 posts

181 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Fact: Belgium is the reason cruise control was invented. You stick it to 120 kph and wait until it is over...

Vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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They have red number plates, this is to warn you quite how bad the driving is there

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

160 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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The pot holes are the result of years of being stitched up by their French neighbours charging everyone a fortune to use French motorways especially commercial traffic.So a lot of it goes through Belgium instead thereby knackering the road surfaces.As you'd have seen there's actually loads of roadworks trying to fix the issues.Other than that those motorways have always been some of the best in Europe for high speed running especially at night when there's not much traffic with the long straights and lighting.I actually used that route again a few weeks ago for a run to Austria via Trier outbound and Aachen on the way back after some years of usually going through France to Strasbourg to get to Germany.French traffic levels are now increasing along with the risk of being nicked while paying a fortune for the privelege in tolls.When the roadworks are done that night run through Belgium to Germany will be as good as ever probably.




morgrp

4,128 posts

228 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Not noticed the driving being particularly bad but that rough, concrete, pock marked, pothole ridden pile of st they call a motorway network is most definitely awful - you can literally tell when you enter France, Luxembourg, Holland or Germany as the car suddenly goes eerily quiet as the road surface suddenly changes.

nickfrog

25,405 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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RealSquirrels said:
Just finished driving from Sussex to southwest Germany-ish( ...)And the driving is terrible, tailgating, pulling out very late, just generally being a tt, etc.
I live in Sussex and that's pretty much how the driving is too.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

249 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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south west belgium is bad

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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If Belgium could be repositioned east of Germany, not many would care these days.

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

252 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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I agree.

There's a reason Belgium has been trashed in the last two world wars: it's not much use for anything else.

I would never have believed that a country could be so dull, and it's probably what keeps the Harwich - Hook ferry on business.

Why their driving is so awful I will never know, but they're amongst the rudest and least pleasant drivers in Europe, IMO

I do actually work with a Belgian woman, and she's miserable and rude too. So that about wraps it for Belgium. smile

Matt UK

18,084 posts

230 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Mermaid said:
If Belgium could be repositioned east of Germany, not many would care these days.
Some would actually be delighted.

_rubinho_

1,237 posts

213 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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As I posted in 2010 Belgium: what's the point?

Hateful place!

Keep it stiff

1,850 posts

203 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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In Brussels, where you get junctions with left turns, they have this ability of creating a second and sometimes a third parallel lane waiting to do the left turn, when you get a gap in the on-coming traffic it makes a funnel effect as two or three swing left and try to get in to a single lane. You would not get away with that for right turns here!

g3org3y

22,505 posts

221 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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morgrp said:
Not noticed the driving being particularly bad but that rough, concrete, pock marked, pothole ridden pile of st they call a motorway network is most definitely awful - you can literally tell when you enter France, Luxembourg, Holland or Germany as the car suddenly goes eerily quiet as the road surface suddenly changes.
yes

Apart from the comically bad road surface, my other overwhelming impression of Belgium's motorway network was disbelief as when it starting pissing down heavily and we slowed to 60-65 owing to spray there were plenty of jokers going past well in excess of 90.

Keep it stiff

1,850 posts

203 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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In Brussels, where you get junctions with left turns, they have this ability of creating a second and sometimes a third parallel lane waiting to do the left turn, when you get a gap in the on-coming traffic it makes a funnel effect as two or three swing left and try to get in to a single lane. You would not get away with that for right turns here!

bqf

2,290 posts

201 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Belgian drivers are properly awful. On the only two occasions I have interacted with Belgians, I have wanted to beat both of them to death. These are two tiny events, and I am sure, many belgians are lovely, friendly people.

But they cannot drive for st, and their roads are absolutely horrid.

so called

9,160 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Northern Belgium roads have improved in the last 10 years.
Personally I find Dutch drivers worse than Belgiums but then I find English drivers the most ignorant and aggressive.

Synchromesh

2,428 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Kolbenkopp said:
Fact: Belgium is the reason cruise control was invented. You stick it to 120 kph and wait until it is over...
The irony is that it's one of the few (the only?) place where cruise control is illegal to use.

sjohnstone39

70 posts

157 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Deerfoot said:
I used to go through Antwerp quite regularly. You are correct about the motorways and service stations in Belgium, they're utter garbage.
30cents to piss then another 30cents to clean hands after topping up oil