Why the hate for big wheels?
Why the hate for big wheels?
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Urban Sports

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11,321 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Loads of hate on here for cars with big wheels, I think big wheels look great compared to smaller ones on the same car. I'm a bit annoyed with myself for not ordering the 19" wheels instead of the standard 18" on my current BMW.

I saw a pic on here recently of a Cayman on 16" wheels it genuinely looked crap. There is always the "it drives better", "it's understated rubbish", "more predictable" etc etc

IMO they drive better with bigger wheels, cars of the same type always feel soggy to me when they are on the smaller wheels than a larger alternative.

smile

mrmr96

13,736 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Many PHers consider "how a car goes" to be more important than "how it looks". So functional features are held in higher regard than styling features. Big wheels tend to have low profile tyres, which make the ride harder and often make handling worse. Hence why there's a certain "hate" if you want to put it like that, for big wheels.

g3org3y

21,618 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Typical complaints:
- Worse ride
- More tramlining
- More expensive tyres
- More cracked alloys

joewilliams

2,004 posts

217 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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No place for style over substance.

Presuming Ed

1,620 posts

224 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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There is no way you can be a keen driver and you must spend all you time going up and down motorways. Let me guess, you've got a diesel too and cant understand the hate over petrol?

Harsh yes but even a complete knuckle dragger can see the benefit of a good ride when it comes to fast driving. I love the look of big wheels but to be honest on my gti which has 18 inch wheels crashes where it should flow, 17s would be a far better choice and im looking to go down a size

Edited by Presuming Ed on Sunday 22 September 18:43

Presuming Ed

1,620 posts

224 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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There is no way you can be a keen driver and you must spend all you time going up and down motorways. Let me guess, you've got a diesel too and cant understand the hate over petrol?

Harsh yes but even a complete knuckle dragger can see the benefit of a good ride when it comes to fast driving. I love the look of big wheels but to be honest on my gti which has 18 inch wheels crashes where it should flow, 17s would be a far better choice and im looking to go down a size

Edited by Presuming Ed on Sunday 22 September 20:42

deltashad

6,731 posts

213 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Less is more

LeoSayer

7,557 posts

260 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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One driver's soggy is another's compliance.

I've found that car generally look better and feel sharper to steer with bigger with wheels but I've never felt that's it's worth the compromise in terms of poorer ride quality, road noise and cost of tyres.

Jonny_

4,535 posts

223 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Other than the technical downsides (harsher ride, poor turning circle, etc), there's the association with the "it'z got twenty inch rimz innit blud" type morons, and the simple fact that to a lot of people huge wheels DON'T look attractive.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, though, so why worry what I or anyone else thinks? Just don't call me "blud". smile

Matt UK

18,079 posts

216 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Some want 'handling and feel' and some want 'grip and a firm sporty ride'.
The latter are more profitable so are catered for accordingly.

Urban Sports

Original Poster:

11,321 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Presuming Ed said:
There is no way you can be a keen driver and you must spend all you time going up and down motorways. Let me guess, you've got a diesel too and cant understand the hate over petrol?
Very presuming of you Ed.

clare1986

20 posts

143 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Doesn't matter how much your car has cost you, your safety ultimately comes down to those four bits of rubber that connect you to the road.

I drove my mother's Ford Ka in the rain a few weeks back, I have never felt so unsafe in my life.

Give me 245/40 over 165/65 everytime.

Urban Sports

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11,321 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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I should have stated that I was asking about factory cars not modified although modified cars may well be a point for discussion as well.

vikingaero

11,959 posts

185 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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You wll gain more feel and what you think is a more sportier handling with low profiles. Most car TV programmes have filmed comparisons of a standard sporty hatch and one blinged up with the phattest wheels. In most cases a car on standard wheels will be faster around a track than one on supersized drug dealer alloys.

Urban Sports

Original Poster:

11,321 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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vikingaero said:
You wll gain more feel and what you think is a more sportier handling with low profiles. Most car TV programmes have filmed comparisons of a standard sporty hatch and one blinged up with the phattest wheels. In most cases a car on standard wheels will be faster around a track than one on supersized drug dealer alloys.
Have you got any links to the programmes?

Si.P

44 posts

254 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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clare1986 said:
Doesn't matter how much your car has cost you, your safety ultimately comes down to those four bits of rubber that connect you to the road.

I drove my mother's Ford Ka in the rain a few weeks back, I have never felt so unsafe in my life.

Give me 245/40 over 165/65 everytime.
I may be wrong and please feel free to correct me if I am but a larger width tyre can actually be worse in the rain as there is a greater chance of aquaplaning where as narrower tyres will tend to cut through any surface water

cerb4.5lee

37,881 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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It is a contentious issue I love bigger rims as I think wheels can make or break a car & if you take my M3 for example they were set up & tested with 18 inch rims yet most owners opt for the 19 inch rim...me included, but to be fair it still rides & handles well on the 19's imo.

SMcP114

2,916 posts

208 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Ive a diesel Insignia on 20" wheels. It's white too. I can feel the hate.

g3org3y

21,618 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Si.P said:
clare1986 said:
Doesn't matter how much your car has cost you, your safety ultimately comes down to those four bits of rubber that connect you to the road.

I drove my mother's Ford Ka in the rain a few weeks back, I have never felt so unsafe in my life.

Give me 245/40 over 165/65 everytime.
I may be wrong and please feel free to correct me if I am but a larger width tyre can actually be worse in the rain as there is a greater chance of aquaplaning where as narrower tyres will tend to cut through any surface water
yes I was also under the impression that narrower tyres were more resistant to aquaplaning.

My Evil Twin

460 posts

149 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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Si.P said:
I may be wrong and please feel free to correct me if I am but a larger width tyre can actually be worse in the rain as there is a greater chance of aquaplaning where as narrower tyres will tend to cut through any surface water

this is what I also understand to be true in most cases.. but its not actual size od contact, but Kg/cm2 of ground contact.

excluding the normal priviso (?) of decent rubber