do you believe your instruments?
do you believe your instruments?
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bryan35

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1,906 posts

264 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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What speed are you doing?
well,
Your speedo tells you one thing (apparently they over-read, by anything up to 10%) but how do you know that?, plus they have a latency. they tell you the speed that you were doing about 1 second ago. Add into that the effect tyre size, wear, and inflation has on road speed.
A Lastec 2020 will tell you another, but the again there's cosine error (you can't be perfectly perpendicular to the ballatino in the number plate), and they are only accurate to about 20cm or so, which over 0.3 of a second is 'more or less' +/- 1MPH.
A GPS receiver. Calculates your position to (classified) accuracy, and by seeing how this position changes with time calculates speed. The clock in the GPS is always locked to the satelite, which is atomic (pretty good) and even taking into account the diminished selective availability, the variations still aren't quick enough to detract from the location acuracy and therefore a speed reading.
latency is about 2 seconds.
Then theres a measured mile. The speed is an average anyway, and unless you've got the kit your down to your own eyesight and pressing the button on a stopwatch. not very accurate.

So chaps, how do you know your speed? (apart from the NIP telling you)

edc

9,494 posts

274 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I believe my instruments, that is I believe them to be not 100% accurate so if necessary err on the side of caution. I don't need them to be any more accurate than they are.

8Pack

5,182 posts

263 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I think it says more about our system of "Rigid" speed limits than our instruments!

gh0st-preop

4,693 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I got my GPS and tested it against my speedo.

It reads 30 at an actual 27MPH

It reads 60 at an actual 56MPH

It reads 80 at an actual 74MPH

So I make sure I am around 3mph faster on 30's and around 7 MPH faster on the motorways to keep an exact speed.

Don

28,378 posts

307 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I checked my Porsche out with my GPS at Bruntingthorpe. At 152mph indicated I passed through the traps at 148mph. Except I believe I lifted so I reckon its more like 152mph - 150mph.

Which is ludicrously accurate.

At lower speeds on public roads the speedo is absolutely bang on.

Apache

39,731 posts

307 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Saab or Beemer absolutely (top whack for my old turbo was 118 in't brochure and that's exactley where the needle stopped)

TVR hell no, kinda like the steering on the beemer, a rough guide only

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

264 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I've checked my car an bike by GPS;

Clio Sport 99 at indicated 100mph.
Aprilia 98 at indicated 100 (although I've shortened the gearing. They have been tested as 100% accurate at 167mph)
Kawasaki ZX6R 93 at indicated 100mph - which is pretty crappy.

gh0st-preop

4,693 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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rsvmilly said:
I've checked my car an bike by GPS;

Clio Sport 99 at indicated 100mph.
Aprilia 98 at indicated 100 (although I've shortened the gearing. They have been tested as 100% accurate at 167mph)
Kawasaki ZX6R 93 at indicated 100mph - which is pretty crappy.



...all done on a race track of course...

toppstuff

13,698 posts

270 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Friend of mine had a brief period owning a Tuscan. Speedo was all over the place, showing him doing 110mph when he was only doing 40..

Mileage meter had a mind of its own as well - miles would run up when the car was standing still !

sadako

7,080 posts

261 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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GPS is good for about +-1mph

MR2 speedo 5-10mph out (needs rear tracking adjustment)
Rover speedo spot on, 1-2 out on a bad day