S2 exhaust manifolds.
S2 exhaust manifolds.
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Victor1275

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43 posts

180 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Hi

Does anyone know how i can get hold of some (second hand) exhaust manifolds and downpipes for my 89 S2 (non cat)?
i got a quote for new ones in stainless but im a student and 700 pounds is quite a bit above my budget.

Cheers!

S2Mike

3,065 posts

179 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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I believe several people on here are looking for similar, quite rare, most changed for same reasons.
Maybe try breakers or keep an eye on fleabay, is all I can suggest. Are yours definately beyond a repair, a weld patch or exhaust bandage?

techbotics

1,805 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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440 at ACT plus VAT still expencive mind.

I assume yours is a 2.9?

Problem is they are all 20 years old now so 2nd hand are hard to find. Tvr dean is breaking an s2 mind may have a manifold or 2.

Mine may be available towards the end of year but not perfect mind.. No holes so far though.

Good luck

Damian S3

Victor1275

Original Poster:

43 posts

180 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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440 is too much, so i guess i have to checkout fleabay.
For now i wil try to pach them up a littlebit.

by the way, previous owners tried to undo the manifolds and sheard off the bolts and drilled out the bolts in the head. now the thread is dammaged and the exhaust leaks. (gaskets are new)
how can i fix this?

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Victor1275 said:
i guess i have to checkout fleabay.
Don't hold your breath!

Unless they are a total mess I think a bit of welding is your best bet.
Compared to some manifolds they are quite simple, with a little care and patience (and lots of bits of pipe) they could be virtually re-built.


Victor1275 said:
now the thread is dammaged and the exhaust leaks.
Top ones can I believe be drilled out and replaced with nuts and bolts?

bottom ones could possibly be repaired with "Helicoils" (may mean heads off to do)

Victor1275

Original Poster:

43 posts

180 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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welding it is.

top ones are replaced by nuts and bolts, but 6mm instead of 8mm
Im going to check the bottom ones right now, i know one bolt is missing. i noticed after replacing the gaskets the exhaust was blowing.
wish me luck, id rather not take the heads off..

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Victor1275 said:
i noticed after replacing the gaskets the exhaust was blowing.
Will definately blow with a bolt missing but even with all the bolts and more new gaskets there is a good chance the mating face is distorted/damaged so within a short time will start blowing again.
Have a good look when they're off, can be repaired if not too bad with some careful filing. On mine I cut the links out from between the three flanges, makes the filing easier and possibly allows each flange to pull up more evenly?

Victor1275

Original Poster:

43 posts

180 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Tnx!

I inspected the exhaustport that was blowing and now i remember why that bolt was missing.
the piece on the cast iron cilinderhead where the bolt goes in has broken off and is missing, so there is no 'flesh' that the tread can hold on to, and to make it even worse its the right hand cilinder closest to the firewall. So practicly inaccessable.
I tried to mend it with a nut and washer but its impossible, so i think the best thing i can do is look for a replacement cilinderhead with unmolested threads.

(I hope you can all understand what i am trying to say, english is not my native language)

Cheers Victor.

Victor1275

Original Poster:

43 posts

180 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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phillpot said:
On mine I cut the links out from between the three flanges, makes the filing easier and possibly allows each flange to pull up more evenly?
thats sounds smart. better acces too.

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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Victor1275 said:
I hope you can all understand what i am trying to say, english is not my native language

Cheers Victor.
You're doing better than some on here who's native tongue is English biggrin

Ragtop

592 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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phillpot said:
You're doing better than some on here who's native tongue is English biggrin
Indeed... wink

G

glenrobbo

40,455 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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Ragtop said:
phillpot said:
You're doing better than some on here who's native tongue is English biggrin
Indeed... wink

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Whose head that? biggrin
I don't know, I go on holiday for a couple of weeks & when I return, the S forum has gone to rack & ruin, Norman's done a runner, Gerald is now just "the TVR" & Ragtop's joined the spelling police wink
It gets more like The Lounge every day........

Sorry Victor, I can't help you, I only have S1 2.8 bits.
I suggest you run a continuous search on fleabay for a cyl head & see what turns up, also try the Ford forums.

Or try Sierra's 'R' Us ( their punctuation, not mine ) in Chorley, Lancs.
steboardman30@gmail.com
+447989186471
They have lots of Sierras & are very helpful.

Regards,
Glen.

Edited by glenrobbo on Wednesday 25th September 09:27

Victor1275

Original Poster:

43 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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glenrobbo said:
Sorry Victor, I can't help you, I only have S1 2.8 bits.
I suggest you run a continuous search on fleabay for a cyl head & see what turns up, also try the Ford forums.
Its the same story with my dads S1, but only snaped off bolts, nothing is missing.
( i guess my best shot to drill them out is to undo the exhausts and engine mounts, and jack up the engine a littlebit..?!

About my S2, thanks for the contacts Glenn, ill give those chaps a ring somewhere this week.
I just got home from work after a hard day of working on classic vespa's (yes that is a real job XD ), just shoved some food in my face and now its time to get greasy again and take the cilinderhead off.
maybe its possible to file/grind away some material and weld in a M8 nut.
I will post a picture of the dammage!

cheers,
Vic

glenrobbo

40,455 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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Victor, regarding your Dad's S1 ( is he on the owners list*? ) search on here for Rob ( griffinr )'s topic, 'Manifold Change'. He had sheared bolts but successfully drilled & tapped them out, he gave a good description of how he did it.
Well worth a read before you tackle the job yourself.

It seems to me that you have plenty of enthusiasm & perseverance, both qualities ideal if you have a TVR!
Good luck,
Glen.

  • Wiki at the top of the S forum.

Griffinr

1,017 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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glenrobbo said:
Victor, regarding your Dad's S1 ( is he on the owners list*? ) search on here for Rob ( griffinr )'s topic, 'Manifold Change'. He had sheared bolts but successfully drilled & tapped them out, he gave a good description of how he did it.
Well worth a read before you tackle the job yourself.
This is the the drilling bit of the topic.

Well its job done!! And only 20 hours, just imagine how much I saved on the labour. Only had to drill out 4 manifold bolts in the end. Not easy in situ but can be done with a good quality angle drill. I ground the remaining studs flat and square then centre punched the centre. Then got a small drill started and checked I was in the centre with a mirror, if you’re not in the centre you can “walk” the drill point over to the right place and re-check. Drilled through with the 3mm drill then followed up with a 6.5mm (the actual tapping size M8 is 6.8mm but I was allowing for being a little off centre) The top chassis rail is just in the right place for levering the back of the drill with a wooden batten whilst concentrating on keeping the drill square to the hole. Finally tapped through and fitted the new manifolds with A2-80 stainless bolts and copper slip.
Injuries? Hands survive unscathed but cut head from head butting the chassis and bruised foot from dropping trolley jack on it.
You need to use a decent quality angle drill such as the Makita. Expensive but can be hired or maybe as I did, borrowed. I don't think it would be successful with one of the angle adapters.
Rob.

glenrobbo

40,455 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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thumbup Top man Rob.

Victor1275

Original Poster:

43 posts

180 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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@ Griffinr
Thanks for your contribution. I will tackle that job soon now i know how its done.
btw, how is your foot? a trollyjack.. auwtch! I did get a piece of rust in my eye twice if that may ease your pain.

progress on the s2.
Today i bought the torq-bit to undo the headbolts, finaly the cilinderhead is off.
don't ask me how the previous owner managed to snap off such a huge chunk of metal..
Pictures..




By the way, my dad is not in the S1 owner list. I will get that updated, not only for the s, we have a few "glue smelling canoes"

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Victor1275 said:
By the way, my dad is not in the S1 owner list. I will get that updated, not only for the s, we have a few "glue smelling canoes"
Don't foget the mapwink

Victor1275

Original Poster:

43 posts

180 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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phillpot said:
Don't foget the mapwink
Will do! there are actualy quite a few tvr s series in the netherlands and belgium.
A man just across the street here in belgium bought one, I will tell him to add his S aswell.