Beat the M25 blues.
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Vipers

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259 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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The Jolly Todger

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211 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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That looks sketchier than a Rolf Harris pencil drawing of some children.

Snoop Bagg

1,879 posts

225 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Dosn't look too stable! But a hell of a concept, they're getting there.

Monkeylegend

29,534 posts

262 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Can you imagine preparing for take off on the M25 during rush hour. I often day dream of doing this when I am stuck in traffic.

Paying the toll charge at Dartford would be a challenge.

944fan

4,962 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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The take off speed is 90mph. How are you legally going to achieve that?

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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944fan said:
The take off speed is 90mph. How are you legally going to achieve that?
Previous proposals like this one have suggested using a runway. The idea is you complete the lion's share of the journey airborne and drive from the nearest airfield to your destination by road.

Eric Mc

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296 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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The only aerocar concept that ever really worked -


Dr Interceptor

8,183 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Hmm... interesting.

So you drive to your local airfield, get the gates opened up onto the apron, drive out, open out the wings then carry out all of your external pre-flight checks. Then you phone ahead to where you are flying to, give your details and 'book in'. Then you can get back in, and book in with ATC for departure.

For what this is going to cost, why wouldn't you just have a nice little Piper PA28 parked up at your local airfield, drive over there, still do all of the above, but fly there in an actual plane, rather than a car-plane?

Coldfuse

518 posts

225 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Dr Interceptor said:
Hmm... interesting.

So you drive to your local airfield, get the gates opened up onto the apron, drive out, open out the wings then carry out all of your external pre-flight checks. Then you phone ahead to where you are flying to, give your details and 'book in'. Then you can get back in, and book in with ATC for departure.

For what this is going to cost, why wouldn't you just have a nice little Piper PA28 parked up at your local airfield, drive over there, still do all of the above, but fly there in an actual plane, rather than a car-plane?
At a guess, because then you would have a car at the other end.

Flying cars will never work until they develop some way to generate lift without wings/propellors. I always envisage something out of Star wars or some form or repulsor lift technology. Just imagine a car that can just take off vertically and silently using repulsors and fly like that. Think Back to the future delorean style.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Coldfuse said:
Just imagine a car that can just take off vertically and silently using repulsors and fly like that.
Then imagine some of the mouth breathing, window licking retards allowed on todays roads in one of these things. Unfortunately, unless my proposed cull ever happens, these things won't eitherfrown

mikeveal

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281 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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A Rotax 912, that's good thinking.

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The Jolly Todger

2,744 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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northwest monkey said:
Then imagine some of the mouth breathing, window licking retards allowed on todays roads in one of these things. Unfortunately, unless my proposed cull ever happens, these things won't eitherfrown
Thanks for that Adolf.

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balls-out

3,794 posts

262 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Love the Chief Designer's Bio. includes:
- Academy of fine Arts and Design
- golf car
- electric scooter

Who needs engineering or any background in how thing fly?

abbotsmike

1,033 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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944fan said:
The take off speed is 90mph. How are you legally going to achieve that?
My commute on the m25 generally involves a stretch of m23 at the start. It's usually clear enough, and there are no cameras wink

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Taking off into a motorway matrix sign near you...

DIW35

4,205 posts

231 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Video didn't work for me, but I'm guessing that's just a mock up, because with the rear wheels where they are, it's going to be difficult to get the tail down far enough to actually generate enough lift to take off. Unless the wing has an amazing amount of incidence/flaps to generate enough lift once you are going fast enough, but that's not the most efficient way to design your craft to get off the ground.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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The Jolly Todger said:
northwest monkey said:
Then imagine some of the mouth breathing, window licking retards allowed on todays roads in one of these things. Unfortunately, unless my proposed cull ever happens, these things won't eitherfrown
Thanks for that Adolf.

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You know I'm right thoughhehe

Do we really need someone like this in a flying car....



I rest my casebiggrin

944fan

4,962 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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abbotsmike said:
944fan said:
The take off speed is 90mph. How are you legally going to achieve that?
My commute on the m25 generally involves a stretch of m23 at the start. It's usually clear enough, and there are no cameras wink
But the M23 has the road surface of a third world back water. Bumpy take off for you!

amancalledrob

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165 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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DIW35 said:
Video didn't work for me, but I'm guessing that's just a mock up, because with the rear wheels where they are, it's going to be difficult to get the tail down far enough to actually generate enough lift to take off. Unless the wing has an amazing amount of incidence/flaps to generate enough lift once you are going fast enough, but that's not the most efficient way to design your craft to get off the ground.
How do light aircraft with tailwheels overcome that? Does it cause a similar problem?

Dr Interceptor

8,183 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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amancalledrob said:
DIW35 said:
Video didn't work for me, but I'm guessing that's just a mock up, because with the rear wheels where they are, it's going to be difficult to get the tail down far enough to actually generate enough lift to take off. Unless the wing has an amazing amount of incidence/flaps to generate enough lift once you are going fast enough, but that's not the most efficient way to design your craft to get off the ground.
How do light aircraft with tailwheels overcome that? Does it cause a similar problem?
Different issue.

Planes with tail wheels (tail draggers) sit the wings at an angle designed to generate lift, angled down front to back in relation to the ground. As a result they usually have quite low take-off speeds. Incidentally to fly a tail dragger, its an extra qualification over and above the PPL.

This car-plane sits flat, the wings are flat in relation to the ground. They must generate lift at a certain speed, if you watch the video there's no lift, no lift, no lift, then the thing just pops off the ground at a certain speed.. Will make it interesting to land, you will literally have to fly it on to the tarmac with power on to maintain airspeed, then cut the power when you're on, or very nearly on the ground.