Overturned lorry causes M1 delays in Hertfordshire...Why?
Overturned lorry causes M1 delays in Hertfordshire...Why?
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robinessex

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12,038 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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The M1 in Hertfordshire has reopened after a lorry overturned early on Thursday morning, blocking four lanes.

The crash, which happened just after junction eight near Redbourn at about 06:00 BST, closed the northbound carriageway for nearly five hours, while recovery took place.

The driver was not injured and no other vehicles were involved, police said.

Why did this take so *******! long!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...

kiethton

14,668 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Lorry's can carry a lot of stuff/be very heavy/be positioned awquardly (dangerously) that can take a fair amount of time to recover....

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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We get it. You get angry when they close motorways. Why post another thread on a similar subject a day after a previous (and rather badly misjudged) rant?

greygoose

9,669 posts

226 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Perhaps lorries are very heavy and require specialist equipment to pick up again? Fuel spilled across the road etc

Getragdogleg

10,271 posts

214 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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You try picking a truck up when they capsize, not bloody easy and the last thing I want is impatient tts speeding by (and having a good look) 3 inches away from where I am working.

Besides, st happens and you are not the only person in the world, you are no more important that anyone else. Someone else had a far worse day than you.

robinessex

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12,038 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Chicane-UK said:
We get it. You get angry when they close motorways. Why post another thread on a similar subject a day after a previous (and rather badly misjudged) rant?
So people like you can post stupid comments

kambites

71,599 posts

252 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Five hours doesn't sound bad for moving an overturned lorry, to me. I can't imagine it's an easy task.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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And cleaning/repairing the carriageway. Very reasonable! If you look at the picture in the article it's ended up perpendicular to the usual traffic flow, blocking all 3 lanes, can't just leave one open!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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OP - there's a gap in the market for you to plug, re-righting overturned artics in under 2 hours...

goneape

2,861 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Some plastic explosive and a road sweeper would do the job in no time.

109er

433 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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robinessex said:
The M1 in Hertfordshire has reopened after a lorry overturned early on Thursday morning, blocking four lanes.
The crash, which happened just after junction eight near Redbourn at about 06:00 BST, closed the northbound carriageway for nearly five hours, while recovery took place.
Why did this take so *******! long!
I think this picture will show you the problem and why.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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109er said:
I think this picture will show you the problem and why.
exactly, plod should be putting their backs into it rather than stand around picking their noses

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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A severe diesel spill can necessitate that the affected carriageway is planed away and resurfaced.

The OP appears to be an imbecile who hasnt learned anything after his similarly stupid post yesterday.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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sleep envy said:
109er said:
I think this picture will show you the problem and why.
exactly, plod should be putting their backs into it rather than stand around picking their noses
Yeah - the OP is a very important man & probably powerfully built. They could have built a bridge over it or something.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

217 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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robinessex said:
So people like you can post stupid comments
Hoping to find someone more stupid and ignorant than you? You'll be waiting for a long time.

How many of these threads are you going to make before you get bored?

Edited by Janesy B on Thursday 26th September 13:17

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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robinessex said:
So people like you can post stupid comments
Glad I could oblige.

C.A.R.

3,993 posts

219 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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I heard this on the radio this morning, apparently it was due to not only the overturned lorry but a fuel spill? I can't imagine it's a case of getting some floor wipes and giving the road a good going over, but then I don't work in the emergency services so don't really qualify for comment...

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Spillage of hazardous materials?
Damage to barriers?
Very, very heavy stuff in the lorry?
Injuries?

5 hours is fk-all in reality.

109er

433 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Have you ever seen a demonstration of righting an overturned HGV.
Due to their construction you can't just roll it like a car, the
superstructure is 'flimsy' to say the least making a 'top' lift
impossible.
You can only 'pull' from the uppermost section of the chassis. The
main problem is to stop the side on the ground from sliding.

Pic: Red is pulling area, Blue is the 'stop' it sliding area.


Bill

58,831 posts

286 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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109er said:
Have you ever seen a demonstration of righting an overturned HGV.
Due to their construction you can't just roll it like a car, the
superstructure is 'flimsy' to say the least making a 'top' lift
impossible.
You can only 'pull' from the uppermost section of the chassis. The
main problem is to stop the side on the ground from sliding.

Pic: Red is pulling area, Blue is the 'stop' it sliding area.

Presumably after emptying the 20T+ load by hand, and before clearing up debris and fuel. 5 hours doesn't seem bad IMO.