Consequences of walking out of a job...
Consequences of walking out of a job...
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Lawbags

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1,074 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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...without working any notice?

I know they won't give a reference, but that's not a problem.
Any other issues it might cause?

LordHaveMurci

12,336 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Can't imagine there's much they could do in reality, apart from not pay you the time you didn't work.

Just out of interest, what have they done to deserve this?

Lawbags

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1,074 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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I was TUPE'd here from another firm where I was employed to work over varoius sites as a mobile engineer. Now, I do 4 days a week at one site and 1 elsewhere, I have pretty much zero overtime as opposed to 20-25 hours a month and instead of being on call full time, I'm now one in 9, which will further reduce my income.

However for the last 4 months, I have been underpaid. Not even seen my basic. Luckily it's only been a couple of hundred quid, so i can still pay my bills.
I do all my part- emailing my timesheets at the end of the week, but it's the office bird who is 'too busy to get them signed off'.
I've asked to log a grievence against her and have been told that's impossible.
How do I know I'll be able to clear my bills next month??

I don't like the day to day work, or the attitude towards me for asking to log the grievence.

I've been offered another job to start as soon as possible. Hence wanting to walk

0000

13,833 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Lawbags said:
However for the last 4 months, I have been underpaid. Not even seen my basic.
Presumably they've breached the contract then. I'd walk. Not an employment lawyer though.

mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Lawbags said:
I was TUPE'd here from another firm where I was employed to work over varoius sites as a mobile engineer. Now, I do 4 days a week at one site and 1 elsewhere, I have pretty much zero overtime as opposed to 20-25 hours a month and instead of being on call full time, I'm now one in 9, which will further reduce my income.

However for the last 4 months, I have been underpaid. Not even seen my basic. Luckily it's only been a couple of hundred quid, so i can still pay my bills.
I do all my part- emailing my timesheets at the end of the week, but it's the office bird who is 'too busy to get them signed off'.
I've asked to log a grievence against her and have been told that's impossible.
How do I know I'll be able to clear my bills next month??

I don't like the day to day work, or the attitude towards me for asking to log the grievence.

I've been offered another job to start as soon as possible. Hence wanting to walk
Underpaid? Are you not on a contract?

Walk dude.

Lawbags

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1,074 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Yup. Contracted to work 40 hours a week. Then o/t on top, which might be 3-4 hours a month if I'm lucky.

Edit....I'm not a 'contractor'...I am employed by the firm and have a full, written contract.

mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Lawbags said:
Yup. Contracted to work 40 hours a week. Then o/t on top, which might be 3-4 hours a month if I'm lucky.

Edit....I'm not a 'contractor'...I am employed by the firm and have a full, written contract.
Well walk out then. If they pull you up on it, point out that they haven't been endearing to your contract so I'd like to see them try and do something about it!!!

Lawbags

Original Poster:

1,074 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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mu0n said:
Well walk out then. If they pull you up on it, point out that they haven't been endearing to your contract so I'd like to see them try and do something about it!!!
Good shout.

Having a company van makes things a little more tricky!

tex200

446 posts

200 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Lawbags said:
mu0n said:
Well walk out then. If they pull you up on it, point out that they haven't been endearing to your contract so I'd like to see them try and do something about it!!!
Good shout.

Having a company van makes things a little more tricky!
Well one would assume you'll be handing it back when you leave - what's tricky about it?

If you have a job lined up and they are being silly then just do it.

Lawbags

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1,074 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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tex200 said:
Lawbags said:
mu0n said:
Well walk out then. If they pull you up on it, point out that they haven't been endearing to your contract so I'd like to see them try and do something about it!!!
Good shout.

Having a company van makes things a little more tricky!
Well one would assume you'll be handing it back when you leave - what's tricky about it?

If you have a job lined up and they are being silly then just do it.
Means I can't just call and say that I wont be in tomorrow!


LordHaveMurci

12,336 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Leave the van at the premises, hand in the keys sealed in an envelope with a resignation letter in the same envelope?

MrAndyW

545 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Make sure you get the van signed off. Arrange a date/time to hand the van and any tools,equipment and stock signed from you.
If you just throw the keys in you may find a big bill coming your way for alleged damage or missing stuff as it sounds like they are complete dicks.

When I had a works van a few years back,I really wanted to put it in the car park and set fire to it !!!!
Childish but that's how bad it was.

Good luck

mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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MrAndyW said:
Make sure you get the van signed off. Arrange a date/time to hand the van and any tools,equipment and stock signed from you.
If you just throw the keys in you may find a big bill coming your way for alleged damage or missing stuff as it sounds like they are complete dicks.

When I had a works van a few years back,I really wanted to put it in the car park and set fire to it !!!!
Childish but that's how bad it was.

Good luck
Could you not time stamp photos of the van at all angles including engine bay and wheels/tyres if necessary?

Just to cover your arse.

IanV12

11,696 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Threaten to claim for constructive dismissal, in that by underpaying you, it was impossible to carry on working for them.

Lawbags

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1,074 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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IanV12 said:
Threaten to claim for constructive dismissal, in that by underpaying you, it was impossible to carry on working for them.
Hmm. Now that's a good call. I'll talk to my union!

Muzzer79

13,040 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Unless you're retiring; how can not having a reference not be a bad thing?

It may not affect the job you're going into, but what about the one after that? And after that?

No matter how they've treated you, walking out on a job is a black mark - you don't get a chance to explain why.


Gargamel

16,349 posts

290 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Muzzer79 said:
Unless you're retiring; how can not having a reference not be a bad thing?

It may not affect the job you're going into, but what about the one after that? And after that?

No matter how they've treated you, walking out on a job is a black mark - you don't get a chance to explain why.
It is pretty difficult these days to give a real reference. I wouldn't be concerned about it.


mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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You can also use anyone in the company as a reference too. I'm sure you are pally with a couple of bods there you could use as references. Like the old lady in accounts or whatever.

TIGA84

5,584 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Muzzer79 said:
Unless you're retiring; how can not having a reference not be a bad thing?

It may not affect the job you're going into, but what about the one after that? And after that?

No matter how they've treated you, walking out on a job is a black mark - you don't get a chance to explain why.
Can't really give bad references any more, dates/job titles is about all you can give it unless its off the record or managers know each other in smaller circles/industries.

Lawbags

Original Poster:

1,074 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Muzzer79 said:
Unless you're retiring; how can not having a reference not be a bad thing?

It may not affect the job you're going into, but what about the one after that? And after that?

No matter how they've treated you, walking out on a job is a black mark - you don't get a chance to explain why.
Yep. One guy who was my supervisor was TUPE'd with me and left for the same reasons. He is my referee, so no probs there.