RE: PH mega hatch triple test: My Dream Drive
RE: PH mega hatch triple test: My Dream Drive
Thursday 26th September 2013

PH mega hatch triple test: My Dream Drive

We had a helluva drive earlier in the week - here's the route!



Name: Matt Bird
Where: B1257 Helmsley Road to A537 Cat and Fiddle
Car used: VW Golf GTI MK 7

The route:
"It's a long one! We started at Stokesley, worked our way south on the Helmsley Road and then to York via the B1363. The B1222 takes you to the A1, then it's M62 to the A672. Work your way through the peaks and the A6 take you to the Cat and Fiddle. It's a fairly mammoth journey, 168 miles in total..."

Helmsley was peaceful before these arrived
Helmsley was peaceful before these arrived
Why it's a dream drive:
"Where to start? We really had three Dream Drives in one day so variety really was the key. It also means you can take just a section of our route and love it. The wealth of surfaces, corners, views and speeds made them all challenging, all rewarding and just immense fun.

"We started at Helmsley, the morning cold and misty. Surrounded by woodland initially and then working across the moor, it has the feel of rally stage. Having some fierce undulations and blind crests only helped that feel.

"From Helmsley to York feels much more confined, with high hedgerows placing visibility at a premium occasionally. But that's just a different task; where Helmsley is about planning line and conserving momentum, now it was all about braking late and powering out early, scrabbling on to the next bend.

Getting to York the PH way
Getting to York the PH way
"Circumvent York and the B1222 Bishopdyke Road will have you smirking with glee for two reasons; it's another superb B-road, plus you'll be having loads of fun whilst others trudge along the A64.

"Having the motorway break across Yorkshire on the M62 is a good time to refuel both you and the car, plus dialling back the intensity for a bit is probably wise. You'll want to be on top of your game for what follows.

"The A672 and B6114 run almost parallel to the M62, and to see motorway from such a brilliant driver's road is bizarre. But soon they work their way across Saddleworth Moor and into the Peak District when the motorway miles, the money spent on fuel and the early start will be rendered totally insignificant. With the sun shining, the moors feel like the top of the world. Views of beautiful reservoirs and valleys flood through the windscreen as the road dissects the landscape; Google streetview will give you an even better impression! We came across some really fast sections at the start, hidden bumps throwing up real tests. Great visibility and light traffic allows you to drive pretty hard for mile after joyous mile.

"Driving it with a friend in another car is also advised; it really is a Dream Drive you'll want to share."

Yup, the M62 really is that close!
Yup, the M62 really is that close!
Highlights and lowlights:
"The biggest downside we faced was the travelling; Yorkshire and Derbyshire are a fair trek from London! Moreover, there are no guarantees of traffic. Some of the route is properly narrow, and if you get stuck behind a lorry, you could be there quite a while. Our advice would be turn round and just enjoy the previous miles again!

"Some of the reservoirs encountered on the latter stages are really worth seeing. See the New Year's Bridge, Dowry and Ringstone Edge as examples.

"A personal highlight was joining the A672 from the M62. It literally is a case of plodding along a motorway one second and thrashing along a cracking road the next. Some of the tiny roads that connected the route were really cool, real relics from the past that required some real awareness to thread the car through."

On days like these....
On days like these....
Sights, stop-offs and diversions:
"You'll certainly need a few! Our day included breaks at Helmsley, Ferrybridge and Glossop, all convenient for effectively being on the route. If you're willing to make a greater diversion, York isn't too far off track to begin with.

"Once you're up in the moors, it's fairly deserted which is why stopping on the motorway is probably best. It won't be romantic, but then neither is being stranded in the middle of nowhere.

"The Cat and Fiddle is at the end of our route also. Whilst SPECS cameras will prevent you really driving it, the pub is nice place to pause. Furthermore, given our recent experience, it's probably surrounded by plenty of other fantastic roads that don't have its draconian safety measures."



 

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RINGMEISTER

Original Poster:

154 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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If you removed that huge three pointed star badge from the front grill of the A45, I could quite easily mistake it for the latest Kia or Hyundai hot hatch offering. The golf is so much better looking.

LordPetroleum

371 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Nice route boys but you made a school boy error there, when reaching Chapel en le Frith you should have ducked right to Whaley Bridge and then endulged in a joyous blast up Long Hill to Buxton. The road is on a par with the C&F but no darn specs cameras. Plus it is a much more enjoyable route with more fab views than the dull run up the A6 through Dove Holes. Just sayin like

Edited by LordPetroleum on Thursday 26th September 14:48

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Cheers for the tip - people take note!

Dan

BBS-LM

3,978 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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RINGMEISTER said:
If you removed that huge three pointed star badge from the front grill of the A45, I could quite easily mistake it for the latest Kia or Hyundai hot hatch offering. The golf is so much better looking.
I wouldn't say it better looking, for some unknown reason, VW are content in making the new GTI look more like the old Mk4 GTI every time they redesign the thing?

bobbo89

6,024 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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That photo up near the top of Holme Moss, did you get caught out by the massive depression?

Seen a few people (especially bikers) have arse twitchy moments going over that!

lmsrocket

4 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Come on, The only car I'm interested in seeing matched up is the a45 vs rs3.

For crying out loud, I have a feeling the rs3 whipped it.

Flat6

593 posts

286 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Yep some great roads there, and well suited to the cars. Enjoyed reading the comparative views on them too.
"Some of the tiny roads that connected the route were really cool, real relics from the past" made me giggle a bit though! smile For many of us Yorkshire folk these "relics from the past" are probably taken for granted. It's only when I moved away that I realised how fortunate I was to have it on my doorstep.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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bobbo89 said:
That photo up near the top of Holme Moss, did you get caught out by the massive depression?

Seen a few people (especially bikers) have arse twitchy moments going over that!
I'm from Huddersfield originally and caught myself out there, if I'm thinking of the same spot, in my old S2000, brown trouser moment!

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Axionknight said:
I'm from Huddersfield originally and caught myself out there, if I'm thinking of the same spot, in my old S2000, brown trouser moment!
whistle

Let's just say the A45's damping is, thankfully, very good indeed... I'll not hear a word said against it after that road!

Dan

Escort Si-130

3,457 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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As said before, the Golf GTI is a bit of a joke there, simpl it is not a mega hatch. Doesn't have the power nor speed. Would have rather see a Audi S3 or Golf R in its place/// MUST TRY BETTER PH!!!

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Golf please!

Hobojim

134 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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I am really looking forward to the write up of the cars.

Hobojim

134 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Axionknight said:
I'm from Huddersfield originally and caught myself out there, if I'm thinking of the same spot, in my old S2000, brown trouser moment!
Its a brown lycra moment on the push bike too, got 54mph down that hill, then hit that depression :S

sparkyhx

4,200 posts

235 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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A672 and A640 are my favourite roads for a quick blast (I come from Halifax). Also when I lived in saddleworth the holmfirth-greenfield road was also great, some nasty dips and yumps on that road.

All these roads drive completely differently depending on direction.

A58 Ripponden to Littleborough also worth a look at
half way along, right onto the B6138 to Mytholmroyd and then onto Hebden Bridge and B6033 to Haworth. from there you can head off towards Skipton and the Yorkshire dates.

Ingleton, Ribblehead, Hawes, Buttertubs etc etc Possibilities are endless.



Edited by sparkyhx on Friday 27th September 13:37

gremlin666

43 posts

197 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Great piece! There is some fantastic driving to be had up there. I remember back in the early '90s I had to travel down from Newcastle to Pocklington, (just outside of York), once every month.
Always drove over the North York Moors. Spectacular! With fantastic, empty roads, and no speed limits back in those days if I remember rightly ;-). Once in a Sierra 1.8LX lol. Once in a Sierra Saphire Cosworth, and a few times in a Pug 205 1.6 GTi. Good days..........

The price of that Merc is bloody ridiculous!

T5Andy

23 posts

189 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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LordPetroleum said:
Nice route boys but you made a school boy error there, when reaching Chapel en le Frith you should have ducked right to Whaley Bridge and then endulged in a joyous blast up Long Hill to Buxton. The road is on a par with the C&F but no darn specs cameras. Plus it is a much more enjoyable route with more fab views than the dull run up the A6 through Dove Holes. Just sayin like

Edited by LordPetroleum on Thursday 26th September 14:48
From Chapel en le Frith surely you'd want to take the Sheffield Road toward Castleton and up over Mam Tor via the steep twisting road down into Edale before turning right at the end of that road when you get to Hope only to cut back through Castleton for the blast up through Winnats Pass on the A6187 and from there head for Sparrowpit, followed by Peak Forrest, Peak Dale and if your fancy should take you, into Buxton via Waterswallows Road to avoid the A6 whilst taking in some of the most dramatic scenery the Peaks have to offer, just sayin like...

teammonkey

12 posts

179 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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T5Andy said:
LordPetroleum said:
Nice route boys but you made a school boy error there, when reaching Chapel en le Frith you should have ducked right to Whaley Bridge and then endulged in a joyous blast up Long Hill to Buxton. The road is on a par with the C&F but no darn specs cameras. Plus it is a much more enjoyable route with more fab views than the dull run up the A6 through Dove Holes. Just sayin like

Edited by LordPetroleum on Thursday 26th September 14:48
From Chapel en le Frith surely you'd want to take the Sheffield Road toward Castleton and up over Mam Tor via the steep twisting road down into Edale before turning right at the end of that road when you get to Hope only to cut back through Castleton for the blast up through Winnats Pass on the A6187 and from there head for Sparrowpit, followed by Peak Forrest, Peak Dale and if your fancy should take you, into Buxton via Waterswallows Road to avoid the A6 whilst taking in some of the most dramatic scenery the Peaks have to offer, just sayin like...
I'm from New Mills (next door to Chapel) and i'd have to kind of agree with the both of you.

From Chapel you're best off going to Whaley Bridge and then up long hill to Buxton which is an amazing stretch of road as suggested. Then once you've reached buxton either head back down long hill (definitely worth a trip down it) or if you want a little breather before the next exciting stretch head down the A6 through dove holes back to Chapel. Then follow the route as suggested by Andy. Edale road is pretty much single lane, and pretty lumpy so be warned if you're cars pretty low. That being said i used to hoon a long it in my 71 clubman and it's an absolute blast. Would also add if you fancy a trip to sheffield at the end of Edale rd when you reach hope if you turn left and carry on that road it'll take you all the way to Sheffield and again is a cracking drive with some stunning views. I used to do it every weekend for 3 years while at uni in a classic mini to get home for work, and now still do to go and see my mate most weekends either in my maestro turbo or the bike. Still hasn't got old.

Fair to say i'm pretty spoiled for driving roads near me...

LordPetroleum

371 posts

201 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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teammonkey said:
T5Andy said:
LordPetroleum said:
Nice route boys but you made a school boy error there, when reaching Chapel en le Frith you should have ducked right to Whaley Bridge and then endulged in a joyous blast up Long Hill to Buxton. The road is on a par with the C&F but no darn specs cameras. Plus it is a much more enjoyable route with more fab views than the dull run up the A6 through Dove Holes. Just sayin like

Edited by LordPetroleum on Thursday 26th September 14:48
From Chapel en le Frith surely you'd want to take the Sheffield Road toward Castleton and up over Mam Tor via the steep twisting road down into Edale before turning right at the end of that road when you get to Hope only to cut back through Castleton for the blast up through Winnats Pass on the A6187 and from there head for Sparrowpit, followed by Peak Forrest, Peak Dale and if your fancy should take you, into Buxton via Waterswallows Road to avoid the A6 whilst taking in some of the most dramatic scenery the Peaks have to offer, just sayin like...
I'm from New Mills (next door to Chapel) and i'd have to kind of agree with the both of you.

From Chapel you're best off going to Whaley Bridge and then up long hill to Buxton which is an amazing stretch of road as suggested. Then once you've reached buxton either head back down long hill (definitely worth a trip down it) or if you want a little breather before the next exciting stretch head down the A6 through dove holes back to Chapel. Then follow the route as suggested by Andy. Edale road is pretty much single lane, and pretty lumpy so be warned if you're cars pretty low. That being said i used to hoon a long it in my 71 clubman and it's an absolute blast. Would also add if you fancy a trip to sheffield at the end of Edale rd when you reach hope if you turn left and carry on that road it'll take you all the way to Sheffield and again is a cracking drive with some stunning views. I used to do it every weekend for 3 years while at uni in a classic mini to get home for work, and now still do to go and see my mate most weekends either in my maestro turbo or the bike. Still hasn't got old.

Fair to say i'm pretty spoiled for driving roads near me...
Agreed to all the above, I was born in Castleton and we then moved to Buxton. Cut my teeth on two and four wheels on these roads when I was a mere nipper. Some outstandingly challenging tarmac round those parts in general which can spit a blagger off in to the nearest field or dry stone wall, but when you get it right its a blast.

MulsanneKinky

268 posts

171 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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Conveniently, I had a meeting in Batley meaning that I had the choice of either... (a) an evening muching Pizza in my hotel room or (B) jump on this route an see what all the fuss was about. I'm on a diet and my hotel room was cr@p meaning option B didn't need too much consideration! Lovely route. Left the A4 at home and bombed up in the TT. For s start I'm delighted to say the TT made it up there in one piece (she's got a good few miles on her) and thrived on the route as laid down. A couple of unexpcted dips made for a mini yomp or two but no lasting damage underneath... although I clonked it loud enough to warrant a cheeky stop and check.

Clocked a few miles up the following day out Otley and Ilkley way. Stunning scenery. The moors are incredible this time of year with eerie conditions/lighting paritcularly at dusk and dawn. Certainly enough great road up there to warrant taking a long weekend, if you've got a hound, get it on the moors during the day and get a couple of early Sat/Sun runs in in the process.