Re: Shed of the Week: Audi 80 Avant
Re: Shed of the Week: Audi 80 Avant
Friday 27th September 2013

Shed of the Week: Audi 80 Avant

Four-wheel drive, scabby exterior and loads of history? This 80 is Shed's ideal winter wagon



Imagine this scenario. You've got the choice of two Sheds. They can't be separated in terms of spec and price. Shed A has reasonable mileage and is quite shiny, but is advertised in a manner suggesting that the owner doesn't really have much of an emotional attachment to it. Shed B has a much higher mileage, and is about as shiny as a toadstool, but the vendor has clearly invested some love and care into it.

Minimalist Audi interior, 90s style
Minimalist Audi interior, 90s style
Which one would you go for?

If your answer is B, step right this way sir, we have just what you're looking for: a not-so-lovely Audi 80 quattro Avant 2.6 (feel free to rearrange those words and numbers in whatever order you like best) that can fairly be described, in the best and most literal sense, as used. Richly endowed with what some might call 'inner beauty', it's just in time for the upcoming season of snowy chaos and the wrong kind of leaves on the motorway.

Before the Audi Doodoo jokes start, yes, it's scabby, but that only adds to its appeal as a working car. The 'ABC engine' reference at the top of the ad means it's an SOHC 12-valve V6. This is a good or a bad thing depending on whether your preference is for chugging or charging. Whatever, Shed likes the idea of eighteen fewer bits of pounding metal to worry about - this is an 'interference' type engine, with a cambelt - but then he likes eight-valve Golf GTIs too, which only goes to show something or other.

Worry not, the original wheels are there too
Worry not, the original wheels are there too
The belt and associated gubbins on the Audi lump (tensioner, belt idler, water pump, thermostat) need to be changed every 60 thousand. If the engine sounds overly tappety when cold the oil pump might be on the way out. Pre-'94 Audi V6s do have something of a reputation for swigging the black stuff, or the gold stuff as it goes in. This is usually a result of low-tension piston rings (a design feature) and leaky seals and gaskets (a specification feature). This '94 car should be OK.

Again, Shed takes the view that a programme of constant replenishment means you're always running on clean oil, which is surely a good thing, plus at the end of the day it's only money. You'd only spend it on food, or shoes for the children.

In regards to what else the next owner should be looking out for, Shed would not presume to add anything to the refreshingly honest and knowledgeable comments made by the owner in his massive ad. Rusty brakes, flickering fuel gauges, expensive exhausts, he's bared his chest about everything. None of it is a problem as he has both addressed and kept on top of all these areas, in the same conscientious way that we all like to think we would, if only we could be bothered.

And not a DRL in sight!
And not a DRL in sight!
Suspension consumption is always going to be a bit of an issue with any car that's as full of metal as this one. Carry on with the vendor's methodical maintenance schedule however and you should end up with a desirable and very useable representative of a time when quality control ruled over accountancy, a doughty (and, in 2.6 quattro guise, relatively rare) vehicle that will see you through this winter and many more.

Personally, Shed would think twice about buying any more cars from the Lake District (where this one lives) after collecting a Passat estate from there a year or so ago, and then spending the next few weeks baling water out of the cabin and replacing soggy comfort ECUs at considerable expense. It was a nice trip up on the train though. They give you free wine in First Class.

Here's the Audi ad. Get your slippers on.

Audi 80 B4 Avant Quattro 2.6 V6 ABC Engine in Green, 162k miles.

£700 ono.

As Ned Stark says, 'Winter Is Coming'...

5 former keepers, current owner since April 2009.

Electric windows, sunroof, central locking all working.

MOT paper history back to 2004, service history from new.
1994-2001 servicing carried out at Lex Audi then Castle Audi (Dundee).
2002-2006 servicing carried out at Chris Abbott VW/Audi Specialists, Alton, Hants.

Comprehensive Service History and receipts of repair work from previous owners.

Current mileage 162K (in daily use so this will increase, approx 40 mile commute).

Last MOT (2012, expiry 6/12/2013) mileage was 150,425.
2011: 138360
2010: 128064
2009: 117160
2008: 110372 (previous owner)

Here's a summary of work carried out (backed up with receipts) during my ownership. All work carried out by Central Garage, Ulverston between 2009-2012, unless otherwise stated.

Nov 2009:
New passenger wing and respray, repair to rear arch.
New radiator & coolant.
Full service (oil, oil filter, spark plugs, brake fluid)
2 x anti roll bar links.
New front discs and pads.
4 x tyres.

September 2010:
New water pump.
New cambelt at 126k
Oil & oil filter.
(Last cambelt change before this was 2003, mileage approx 50k at this point.)

November 2010:
2 x new catalytic converters.
2 x new exhaust downpipes.

January 2011:
Full Powerflow exhaust system (fabricated & fitted by Westgate Tyres of Morecambe).
(Last major exhaust work had been carried out in 2002, including both new cats and sections - receipt present)

June 2012:
New rear discs and pads.
New oil & oil filter.

December 2012:
New front brakes and pads.
New front brake calipers.
New brake hose.
Replacement brake fluid.

Last few months:

New Radiator Fan Switch
New Battery

I have spent upwards of £1500 on upkeep of this Audi, and to my knowledge it has never been off the road for a period of time or declared SORN - I've taken it to festivals, road trips, from one end of the country to the other while I organised relocating South.

Car description / general stuff:

I have owned this Audi for just under 4 and a half years, and I've loved it. I bought it from an ex-Volkswagen mechanic near Kendal in Cumbria. It has 2 and a half months' MOT left, and up until the end of October on Tax. I wasn't planning on selling it - I have been offered my partner's car as she is buying new, so what with my 40 mile commute now, it makes sense to pass this cracking V6 Quattro estate on to someone else.

The Audi comes with the original Ronal 15 inch alloys, which would need a refurb (not buckled, just scruffy). It also comes with a plastic boot liner and original roof bars.

Engine pulls very well, gearbox and clutch are both absolutely great. Masses of torque, 30mph in 5th if you want, good acceleration throughout the gears.

Cooling system works as it should. I replaced a header tank and a pipe as part of work done including a new radiator soon after purchase, and in the last few months I had a new fan switch fitted for the two stage fan.

I had a full Powerflow exhaust fitted about 2 and a half years ago - one of the downsides of the old 4wd Audis is that the original exhaust parts alone would have cost over £1000, and the whole system really needed a revamp at the end of 2010, following repairs to the original exhaust by previous owners. It looks like major work was carried out in 2002, so it did well to last through to 2010. The necessary work was carried out to get it through the MOT, but I priced up a new system and went for a full stainless from the (brand new) Cats back, and it hasn't put a foot wrong ever since. It has added a little performance but to be honest, the 2.6 V6's are not something for tuning. I asked the engineer for as close to OEM as possible and I'm very happy with it.

Rear brakes on Audi 80's rust through like nobody's business, and in my ownership I have replaced all four discs once and all pads at least once. On the last MOT the calipers were sticking, so these were both replaced on the back, along with discs and pads.

The fuel gauges on Audis of this era tend to read erratically, caused by a solder joint behind the instrument cluster on all 80's and 100's - the car's range is around 330 miles on a full tank, but I tend to do 300 miles then fill up, and I am left with about 16 litres left. This works out to around 25-27 mpg as a rough estimate.

Electric windows and sunroof all work spot on, and the locking rear diff engages and disengages like it should, disabling the ABS at speeds up to 30mph. Fans blow on all speeds hot and cold, rear screen heater works, and I recently replaced the cabin filter also.

Before the next MOT, I was going to have a new shock absorber on the offside front, as this has a slight leak, and a CV boot, both marked as advisory on the last test. As my plans have changed (inheriting a Focus), I haven't had time to have this done. That plus the relatively short MOT means I've priced this to sell, open to offers of course.

Condition:

Bodywork-wise the Audi is in reasonable shape for a 20 year old car but does need some attention:

The front drivers wing has rusted around the arch and will eventually need respraying or replacing.

Couple of scratches and parking dents, one larger one on the passenger rear wing, paintwork hasn't been affected there though.

There is a small patch of lacquer peel on the drivers side front bonnet.

There is a larger area of lacquer peel, and some bubbling, just under the rear drivers wing, below the window seal. It doesn't leak through, but would require rubbing down and respraying by a bodyshop.

The bonnet has a small dent on the lip where the grille sits - this happened to the previous owner when a Rav 4 decided to reverse a little too far with a spare wheel mounted on the back! The rust has not spread and it could be filled in and smoothed over if necessary.

A stone very rudely decided to crack the plastic lens on my drivers side fog lamp. I have sourced a replacement one for £15.

Interior is good, there are a couple of very minor marks but nothing you would notice. The drivers seat has a little discolouration (previous owner went skiing and left the sunroof open). Original rubber mats in the front and back, and I am including my Brodit car mount, on which you can attach phone or satnav holders (no marks on the windscreen!). The car doesn't come with a stereo, so you'll have to supply one.

I had the windscreen replaced by Autoglass during my ownership in 2011. No receipt to hand, just so you are aware.

That's about it, any questions or arrangements for viewings can be directed to my email address above. I work 8.30-5pm weekdays so either the evenings from 6pm, or the weekend would be best for viewing. The car is in daily use and will continue to be until sold, so the 162k mileage will be added to.

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mibman2003

Original Poster:

5 posts

224 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Gay

grosserbaby

142 posts

198 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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A Novel contained in an advert! Bargain.

Shambler

1,221 posts

174 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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I owned a 1.9 tdi avant with 170000 on the clock and it was bombproof. I still think this is one of the best Audis for looks and reliability. Would love an S2 estate but very few and far between. Probably a future classic.

GranCab

2,914 posts

176 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Worth buying as a winter shed - so long as it doesn't smell of dog (or sheep...)

MarJay

2,181 posts

205 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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I just can't get on with the current Shed writing style. It's like it's trying too hard to be witty or something.

Bring back Riggers!

TwistingMyMelon

6,517 posts

235 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Bloody hell, hate longwinded adverts, not that cheap considering short ticket

Nice car, I'd be tempted

mikeyr

3,404 posts

223 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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mibman2003 said:
Gay
Odd post - judging from your posting history looks like you wait every 2 years to come out of the closet on SOTW discussions?
confused

Back on topic - seems a bit uninspiring SOTW this time round. A good car rather than an interesting one perhaps?

mooseracer

2,805 posts

200 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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"Personally, Shed would think twice about buying any more cars from the Lake District "

This one must be tempting then as it's in Suffolk?

louismchuge

1,644 posts

214 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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mibman2003 said:
Gay
Insightful

loudlashadjuster

6,498 posts

214 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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mibman2003 said:
Gay
Are you not meant to be in school right now?

BMWill

447 posts

209 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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awesome shed! Given that I'm the only one in my family with an expressed interest apart from the current owner, I'm set to inherit one of these at some point. It's not an estate unfortunately, but still a rather lovely white 2.0 E saloon, which my grandma has owned from new.
Shame there's no fog lights or Quattro system on hers..

Awesome shed!

O11ie

1 posts

190 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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MarJay said:
I just can't get on with the current Shed writing style. It's like it's trying too hard to be witty or something.

Bring back Riggers!
I always enjoy SOTW with its current writing style. It's a witty and quite informative read to help get through the final working day of the week. Not as funny as your profile though - funny in a David Brent kind of way.

Howrare

322 posts

236 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Always liked these, and have toyed with the idea of a convertible more than once or twice.

As for winter duties, 4wd wont help when braking down a slope. Got to be winter rubber if you're that worried. I am off to Mytyres to order mine, but then I do live in the alps, and the fine for not having them is rather large.

Nice shed, and as for the writing, always makes me grin.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

165 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Agood car or sure, but not an interesting one, for me anyway.

KTF

10,709 posts

180 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Too much given the general condition and the upcoming MOT that will need work doing to pass.

Chris71

21,549 posts

272 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Bloody hell, hate longwinded adverts
Each to their own, but I always think a detailed ad suggests the owner actually has some idea what he's talking about and might have the required mechanical awareness to take care of an older car. '12 mths tax, elec windows, VGC, £1,500' can cover a multitude of sins...

montyvr6

93 posts

214 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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I bought an 80 tdi Avant with 217k on the clock. Ran it on chip fat, engine went at 260k, my fault, new engine was £200. Sold it with 300k on the clock. Everything worked, did me proud.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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The dry solders causing the fuel temp etc to go on the fritz is a 30 minute repair job requiring nothing more than a couple of screwdrivers and some wire wool.

All 80's suffer from dry joints in the dash. Once the car has warmed up it helps.

That's the only advice I can offer, other than these are nicely understated cars.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

293 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Take a look around old audi quattros can be found that are tidier with less miles & cheaper than this.


Devil2575

13,400 posts

218 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Like it. For some odd reason I have a soft spot for the Audi 80.