Wheel spacers...
Discussion
what's the big deal? porsche guys run spacers from 3mm-5mm all the way to 15-35mm... to get the right stance. Nothing special about AM cars...fit spacers to place the wheels where you want; don't tell anyone- no one will ever know.. spacers with standard wheels are such subtle modifications.
I have used wheel spacers before, anything bigger than 10mm wide is a MASSIVE NO if you want to drive in a "spirited" manner.
If you are going to get spacers, get hubcentric ones, this means the spacer has a little lip on it that locates it onto the hub as an alloy would sit, rather than allowing the entire weight to rest on the wheel nuts/bolts causing massive mechanical stress at speed.
essentially these are bad : http://www.wheel-lock-nuts.com/photo/pl902193-alum...
these type are good: http://www.superforma.co.uk/image/data/info-pages/...
Notice the difference?
Obviously you will need to get them with the right stud pattern for AM.
Hope this helps
If you are going to get spacers, get hubcentric ones, this means the spacer has a little lip on it that locates it onto the hub as an alloy would sit, rather than allowing the entire weight to rest on the wheel nuts/bolts causing massive mechanical stress at speed.
essentially these are bad : http://www.wheel-lock-nuts.com/photo/pl902193-alum...
these type are good: http://www.superforma.co.uk/image/data/info-pages/...
Notice the difference?
Obviously you will need to get them with the right stud pattern for AM.
Hope this helps
Ed50 said:
Your car looked all right without them today when you roared by in the opposite direction,without waving may I add............
Can't help on the Carlos Fandango bit unfortunately.....thought you would be across the Sugar Mill by now...
Hi Ed, where did I roar past at? What were you driving?, no sugar mill tonight, we've all got colds :-( Can't help on the Carlos Fandango bit unfortunately.....thought you would be across the Sugar Mill by now...
rango am said:
I have used wheel spacers before, anything bigger than 10mm wide is a MASSIVE NO if you want to drive in a "spirited" manner.
If you are going to get spacers, get hubcentric ones, this means the spacer has a little lip on it that locates it onto the hub as an alloy would sit, rather than allowing the entire weight to rest on the wheel nuts/bolts causing massive mechanical stress at speed.
essentially these are bad : http://www.wheel-lock-nuts.com/photo/pl902193-alum...
these type are good: http://www.superforma.co.uk/image/data/info-pages/...
Notice the difference?
Obviously you will need to get them with the right stud pattern for AM.
Hope this helps
Hiya Rango, yeah the hub centric ones are the best, think the existing studs have to be shortened mind you. Can't find anywhere in the UK that stocks them, have found an image off a US site. Look good ?If you are going to get spacers, get hubcentric ones, this means the spacer has a little lip on it that locates it onto the hub as an alloy would sit, rather than allowing the entire weight to rest on the wheel nuts/bolts causing massive mechanical stress at speed.
essentially these are bad : http://www.wheel-lock-nuts.com/photo/pl902193-alum...
these type are good: http://www.superforma.co.uk/image/data/info-pages/...
Notice the difference?
Obviously you will need to get them with the right stud pattern for AM.
Hope this helps
yeti said:
I had spacers on my DB9 when I had Sports Pack wheels, they really made the car look great! I think 20mm rear and 15mm front from memory.
IMHO with a good geo they seemed to make the car handle better; the increase in track seemed to help.
Not to sure on whether AM use wheel nuts or bolts but i think anything bigger than 10mm you will need to look at an extended stud or bolt kit.IMHO with a good geo they seemed to make the car handle better; the increase in track seemed to help.
I could be wrong but alot of car to gamble with if you get it wrong.
Jalfonse said:
Ed50 said:
Your car looked all right without them today when you roared by in the opposite direction,without waving may I add............
Can't help on the Carlos Fandango bit unfortunately.....thought you would be across the Sugar Mill by now...
Hi Ed, where did I roar past at? What were you driving?, no sugar mill tonight, we've all got colds :-( Can't help on the Carlos Fandango bit unfortunately.....thought you would be across the Sugar Mill by now...
Sorry about the cold,bugger the beer try a hot toddy or two.
rango am said:
Not to sure on whether AM use wheel nuts or bolts but i think anything bigger than 10mm you will need to look at an extended stud or bolt kit.
I could be wrong but alot of car to gamble with if you get it wrong.
Yup, it's more expensive than simply spacers; new hubs all round and extended bolts if you're doing it right I could be wrong but alot of car to gamble with if you get it wrong.
yeti said:
I had spacers on my DB9 when I had Sports Pack wheels, they really made the car look great! I think 20mm rear and 15mm front from memory.
IMHO with a good geo they seemed to make the car handle better; the increase in track seemed to help.
Hi Yeti, do you remember where you got them from, did you have to shorten the existing studs?IMHO with a good geo they seemed to make the car handle better; the increase in track seemed to help.
yeti said:
Yup, it's more expensive than simply spacers; new hubs all round and extended bolts if you're doing it right
I am not sure about the other cars but a DB9 has wheel nuts screwing onto studs! No reason at all to need new hubs.There are 2 things that you need to check before replacing the studs and that is.....
a) Make sure the full depth of the nut engages on some stud, so if you have 5mm (as an example) of stud protruding through the nut, then you are safe with 5mm spacers
b) Make sure the central hole on the wheel still engages on the boss on the hub to locate the wheel centrally. Dont rely on the bolts, they just hold the wheel to the hub, the central boss locates it.
If you find the studs too short, I believe Ford studs are a perfect fit and these are available in a miriad of lengths.
If your spacer takes the wheel off the central hole as in "b" above, you will need hubcentric spacers which effectively extend this locating boss.
The trick here is to plan ahead. Measure the distance you wish to extend your wheel out and then check the above. I made my own spacers but I only needed to extend the fronts by 5mm and the rears by 8mm so my studs and hub rings were long enough.
8Tech.
8Tech said:
I am not sure about the other cars but a DB9 has wheel nuts screwing onto studs! No reason at all to need new hubs.
The hubs are quite soft, mine were quite worn after swapping out threads a few times to find what I wanted. Eventually replaced them when I simply fitted DBS wheels and deleted the spacers, advice was they probably should have been done before as they weren't that tidy.
Hi 8tech, good summary, I think when Yeti describes new hubs and studs he is talking about the assembly I've attached below. This is a picture on the Larkspeed website (who I've not heard of or used) and is for the DB9 which apparently is the same fitment as the vantage. The text also mentions that the existing studs have to be trimmed as they will stick out above the surface of the spacer when it's attached and stop the wheel sitting snug against the spacer. Anyone used Larkspeed?
Morning Lee,
If its any help back in 2009 a guy by the name of 3RTT ran a similar thread which mentioned 2 companies that did spacers etc,H&R and RSC Tuning.
Firstly the U.S outfit H&R seemed to get good reviews and I believe our Floridian friend Karlfranz actually fitted then to his Vantage.
Maybe a pm to him might help with your quest,he might even help get some over the pond.
I think 3RTT may have moved on but with your undoubted investigation skills you could back track his post for clues.
Just a thought,there a whole post without being daft,another first........
If its any help back in 2009 a guy by the name of 3RTT ran a similar thread which mentioned 2 companies that did spacers etc,H&R and RSC Tuning.
Firstly the U.S outfit H&R seemed to get good reviews and I believe our Floridian friend Karlfranz actually fitted then to his Vantage.
Maybe a pm to him might help with your quest,he might even help get some over the pond.
I think 3RTT may have moved on but with your undoubted investigation skills you could back track his post for clues.
Just a thought,there a whole post without being daft,another first........
I have H&R spacers fitted to my Jeep... They're really well made and TUV compliant.....Jeep has had them fitted for about 50000 miles or more, is used off road, slam up and down kerbs, never slow down for speed bumps or potholes.
So all in all treated pretty roughly, no issues with the spacers...
So all in all treated pretty roughly, no issues with the spacers...
Ed, Luna, I'm familiar with HR from my time in America, I fitted their springs and almost bought their wheel spacers but instead got some Saleen 7 spoke alloys with a large offset, they make good kit, the stuff I've found on the net is from them, will call up a couple of the outlets I've found in the UK like lark speed to see what they say, cheers
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