Just a simple rant about people not lighting up!!
Just a simple rant about people not lighting up!!
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Fat Audi 80

Original Poster:

2,403 posts

280 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Is it just me, or is this year particularly bad for people not lighting up as dusk approaches, (especially on unlit rural A roads) and even worse when you flash them they simply ignoring you, or in the case of one numpty back like she knew me

Is half the country blind? or Stupid?

Steve

gh0st-preop

4,693 posts

287 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Fat Audi 80 said:


Is half the country blind? or Stupid?

Steve


Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I particularly dislike the practise of either no lights or dipped beams only....

What about side or position lights.....they are plenty at certain times...as the dipped headlights are often too bright and mask those without lights totally..

Street

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

267 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Streetcop said:
I particularly dislike the practise of either no lights or dipped beams only....

What about side or position lights.....they are plenty at certain times...as the dipped headlights are often too bright and mask those without lights totally..

Street


This is one of my pet hates Street, and the worst perpetrators are taxi drivers; in Glasgow they drive about in pitch black roads on sidelights.
Utter idiots; it is so dangerous on winter nights, particularly to pedestrians who are liable to walk out in front of them.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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That's the other side of the coin....side lighs when dipped are required....or in the case I explained; dipped lights when side lights are required...

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

267 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Streetcop said:
That's the other side of the coin....side lighs when dipped are required....or in the case I explained; dipped lights when side lights are required...


I know what you mean Street, but it's the same thing.
I think some driver's just think if it's a wee bit dark you just press the nearest switch on your dash with a lamp symbol on it and that'll do.
No thought, no common sense.

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I hope we're agreeing that there are situations in which the use of just sidelights is satisfactory.

It's not a question of going from no lights at all, straight to dipped headlights is it?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

LancsDriver

242 posts

269 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Could'nt agree more with all of you, stuck in a massive traffic jam on the M6 last Friday from Birmingham all the way upto Preston nearly, a BMW driver decided that although it was raining (hard) and the sunset was upon us it was okay to have just his sidelights on, not only that my trip started at 3.30pm, fairly light you'd have thought, it was but with the rain clouds at times it was rather dark but seen as it got to over 8pm and this idiot still decides to drive with side lights on is sheer ignorance and lack of concentration for what is going on around you, not to mention the stop start of heavy traffic in driving rain and darkness to boot.
Going off on my rant here why do people in the early hours (sunrise) still feel obliged NOT to put lights on - of any sorts!.

How people have licences or even have one without points i'll never know.

cptsideways

13,884 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I noticed the same thing today, however I'm a big fan of dipped headlights all the time.

What I noticed today driving down the motorway in the rain is that cars on sidelights are invisible through wet side & rear windows. Such that I even pulled out on somebody as they simply were'nt visible when I looked to see them.

It's fine if we all have X-Ray vision but I bet a good 50% of drivers have iffy vision plus add in that they don't bother to look anyway.

Headlights for me every time, it's saved my bacon on many an occasion.

V6GTO

11,579 posts

271 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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cptsideways said:
I noticed the same thing today, however I'm a big fan of dipped headlights all the time.



Oh no!...cptsideways is a closet Volvo driver!

wedge girl

4,688 posts

268 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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I hate to say this, but women pulling out of brightly lit undercover shopping center car parks seem to be amongst the worse offenders.

>> Edited by wedge girl on Wednesday 27th October 21:32

cptsideways

13,884 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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V6GTO said:


cptsideways said:
I noticed the same thing today, however I'm a big fan of dipped headlights all the time.





Oh no!...cptsideways is a closet Volvo driver!



Only till January when I have to drive it the Gambia!!, I'm quite fond of it too, it's like driving a jelly mould crossed with a T35 Tank

>> Edited by cptsideways on Wednesday 27th October 21:28

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

267 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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wedge girl said:
I hatte to say this, but women pulling out of brightly light undercover shopping center car parks seem to be amongst the worse offenders.


How refreshingly honest of you my dear!!!

8Pack

5,182 posts

269 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Did anyone say: "Stealth Cyclist"?

cortinaman

3,230 posts

282 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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8Pack said:
Did anyone say: "Stealth Cyclist"?


i met one of those the other night,about 50yds after a 90 degree corner on an unlit section of country road.....he was about a second from becoming a bonnet ornament on my motor when i spotted his pair of white trainers reflecting off my lights......the rest of the prats clothes were black!

out of interest,IF i had have hit him who would have been at-fault? the cyclist for not having lights/reflective clothing/a cycle helmet/riding a bike on a 60mph unlit road.......or me for mearly driving a legal car on the road and not noticing the complete tool until i was on top of him (literally)?

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Streetcop said:
I particularly dislike the practise of either no lights or dipped beams only....

What about side or position lights.....they are plenty at certain times...as the dipped headlights are often too bright and mask those without lights totally..

Street


Are you truly advocating that we drive round on sidelights? You suprise me. As far as i am concerned, the little 5watt jobbies are only any good as parking lights.

If it`s dark enough to need them on, its dark enough for dipped headlights. Headlights bright? Thats the point! If they obscure some tw@t who is dumb enough to drive round with no lights, thats his problem, not mine.

Try driving a truck in the rain, and see how hard it is to spot someone driving on just sidelights. At least if they are behind you with dipped headlights, you can see the wash of light even if you cant see the car.

Poor advice I`m afraid mate.

Steve
Steve

JMGS4

8,931 posts

299 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Street, please put me right on this...is it even legal to drive on "parking" (side-)lights nowadays?
Certainly here on the continent it's NEVER been legal and wil cost muchly monetas.......as well as a "domage a la papier"..............

cptsideways

13,884 posts

281 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Sorry St but I think you are wrong on this even from a law point of view.

You can ONLY drive on parking lights in 30mph streetlit areas. Elsewhere lighting up time means headlights.

Correct if I'm wrong though.

Fat Audi 80

Original Poster:

2,403 posts

280 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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I have to say I am from the school of side lights during the day sometimes and dipped whenever it is getting dark or raining etc.

If you read Roadcraft, it recommends dipped headlights if your wipers are in constant use....

Cheers,

Steve.

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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8Pack said:
Did anyone say: "Stealth Cyclist"?


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