what cheap (Max £2k) 4x4 that's is reliable?
what cheap (Max £2k) 4x4 that's is reliable?
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buzzer

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3,621 posts

271 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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I quite fancy a 4X4 for the winter, for no other reason that I have never owned one before and just fancy a change...

So the criteria is...

Reliable, I don't want something like a Range Rover where they just give big and frequent bills

Age unimportant, but I don't want to spend more than £2k

Fuel consumption - going to be very low miles, so big engines and automatics are OK


Zad

13,022 posts

267 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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£2K and reliable don't generally go together when you are talking about 4x4. I think I would look at Subaru Legacy or Forester first.

airbrakes

10,714 posts

191 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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The temptation is to say Japanese, but at that budget you're looking at a proper shed and when Jap stuff breaks, its usually terminally expensive to fix. We have a sheddy Pajero at my local airfield and it is awful in many many ways.
If economy is not important, then £2k buys a lot of Jeep Cherokee or grand Cherokee, in either 6cyl or v8 flavour. There isnt much to go wrong with them either. Avoid the boat-anchor powered diesel ones though.

maddog993

1,220 posts

271 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Forester - either turbo or non turbo (non turbo has advantage of a low ratio box)
Does pretty much everything a 'big' 4x4 does & much more fun to boot.
If it's a turbo beware of usual thrashed/import/chavved pitfalls otherwise both should prove reliable & findable for £2K

schmalex

13,616 posts

237 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Zad said:
£2K and reliable don't generally go together when you are talking about 4x4.
Rubbish!

A Jeep Cherokee or Grand Grand Cherokee can be had for significantly less than £2K and will give years of faithful service

buzzer

Original Poster:

3,621 posts

271 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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schmalex said:
Rubbish!

A Jeep Cherokee or Grand Grand Cherokee can be had for significantly less than £2K and will give years of faithful service
Just been looking.... that fits the bill!. So what does go wrong with these?

Geekman

2,908 posts

177 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Ford explorer would be a good choice - my dad put over 100k on his and literally nothing went wrong with it apart from consumables. It's still going strong today - our friends out in Spain use it now.

Alternatively, a Jeep Cherokee is a good shout as well.

billzeebub

3,912 posts

230 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Subaru Forester no question. Fit a set of Winter tyres for maximum smugness. If mileage is no issue get a Turbo, very good fun

schmalex

13,616 posts

237 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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buzzer said:
Just been looking.... that fits the bill!. So what does go wrong with these?
I'm no expert, but I think the main things to check for on Cherokee's are the leaf springs to make sure they're not rusted together and I seem to remember the chassis can be quite prone to rusting.

The Grand Cherokee's are pretty bulletproof aside from checking the electricals all work iirc

They are both great cars and if fuel isn't an issue, then go for it. They are amazingly capable off road

xRIEx

8,180 posts

179 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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schmalex said:
Grand Grand Cherokee
Is that in reference to the OP's budget?

rswift

1,181 posts

206 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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I bought a 1998 Cherokee on LPG last October, just for Winter.....still got it, and often jump into it in preference to my Jag.

Did 200 mile round trip in it yesterday in fact.

Early ones appear to rust, later ones (I think 1997 to 2001) are a bit better, and a slight facelift. Noisy diffs appear in the things to look for dept, but there are lots about.

If you go LPG (and there are always LPG jeeps for sale) running costs are fine. The trip computer shows 18MPG on average, (Its in US gallons, so 21 ish in Imperial)

In comparison for winter wheels I've had an old Pajero Diesel (everything still worked, but painfully slow). Range Rover Classic, by far the best, but always something wrong, or about to go wrong. I have 2 friends with well maintained P38 Range Rovers, wonderful cars when everything is working....which isn't very often. The Jeep is great, looks nice, bit bouncy, reasonably comfortable. A bit lively in the back end dept in the Snow, but I think thats more down to my driving than the car.

I think the Grand Cherokee is on springs at the rear, so probably a nicer drive, but also check the 4WD system, I believe 2 sorts were available on the GC, one being a slightly cut down option, no diff locks etc.

nct001

733 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Audi Allroad....

in the trade / ebay smash

Darkslider

3,084 posts

220 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Ford Ranger crew cab pickup or L200 can both be had for that sort of money. Land Rover Discovery as well, or older 90, very early 200 tdi is within budget if you're not scared of using the spanners. Fronteras can be picked up for well into shed money as well?

rswift

1,181 posts

206 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Another gratuitous winter Jeep shot.

Sogra

471 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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I bought a Ford Maverick 1996 about 3 years ago for when the weather is bad and so far not needed to use it although every time it snowed I went out in it but wasnt the fun I was expecting as it coped so well. Had to put a stereo in it and it took a few days to work out how to get the Ford amp working as I couldnt get any wiring diagrams and gthe last stereo had been cut out. Its a 2.4 petrol SWB so I was expecting rubbish MPG but its not that bad and more than enough power to go over most things. Put a tow bar on it but havnt had anything to tow.

The big concern when buying one is knowing if the 4x4 works as most 4x4`s have a tendancey not to be used in 4x4 and then when needed it doesnt work so I ended up armed with jacks to check.

use it mostly for going to the tip owes me nothing so not bad.

Cherokees have a problem with head gaskets as I had a look at a few but other than that not so bad, Nissan Terrano (Mavereck) LWB in diesel around 2000 - 2001 should be in budget.

Ved

3,949 posts

206 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Subaru Forester XT. Utterly magnificent in every way smile

Identical to mine and shouldn't be more than 2k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-Forrester-XT-Turb...

Probably the best one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-FORESTER-XT-Turbo...

Edited by Ved on Sunday 29th September 18:29

rswift

1,181 posts

206 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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I could be wrong but I think it's the early diesel Jeeps that have head gasket issues, the 4L petrol has a great reputation.

I also looked at the old shape Maverick, and would have bought one had my offer been accepted ! The diesels have the 2.7 Nissan Engine as fitted to black cabs.

I fell for the chunky looks of the Jeep, and the reasonable amount of toys it had....but suspect the Maverick is a good choice.

sim16v

2,177 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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I bought my LPG Grand Cherokee about 5 years ago for £850 and it has done sterling service since.

It's towed all over Europe and up and down the UK many times and has cost very little in that time.

I've put on a front set of discs, pads and calipers, a couple of tyres and a new battery.

It could do with a couple of ball joints and a CV joint and the diffs whine a bit, but that is just "character".

I'd definitely recommend one.

irocfan

49,179 posts

221 months

Seeker UK

1,443 posts

189 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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nct001 said:
Audi Allroad....

in the trade / ebay smash
OP said "reliable". A 2k Allroad is risky proposition from the suspension up.

If a 4x4 is required for the AWD and not the luggage space, a petrol Jaguar x-type might fit the bill.