RE: Latest Mini tech details revealed
RE: Latest Mini tech details revealed
Tuesday 1st October 2013

Latest Mini tech details revealed

Adaptive dampers and 'torque steer compensation' coming on the third-gen Mini



Mini's got all serious on us. In its latest news there's no mention of any Mini adventure, a single MINIstry or a Clubman with a trailer. Today we have the tech lowdown on the third-gen Mini, previewed by the Vision concept, and it's formal in the extreme.

Engine far more interesting than it looks!
Engine far more interesting than it looks!
However, it's (mostly) interesting reading too. There are new engines and transmissions, a reduced weight and extensively updated suspension, with adjustable dampers for the first time. Oh, and more boot space.

The engines detailed so far are the 1.5-litre three-cylinder turbo and the 2.0-litre four-cylinder unit, also turbocharged. The smaller engine makes 134hp and 162lb ft, the latter from 1,250rpm and with a 170lb ft overboost also. The 2.0-litre makes 189hp and 207lb ft. Again, that torque peak is at 1,250rpm and the overboost proffers 221lb ft.

Mini claims the engines 'set new standard in terms of output, efficiency, comfort and reliability', the latter of which will surely be welcomed by owners of the PSA-engined Minis. Both the engines are EU6 compliant and feature an aluminium cylinder head, with the turbo integrated into the exhaust manifold for reduced lag. We told you it was serious.

Vision concept has hinted at Mk 3 styling
Vision concept has hinted at Mk 3 styling
Notable from the gearbox side of things is the availability of a rev-matching manual, a la Nissan 370Z. Automatic cars equipped with nav can have gears adapted to the route for maximum efficiency.

Mini says there has been a 'complete redesign' of the chassis, with 'innovative solutions' for 'even more precise and sporty handling', so it appears the focus on fun hasn't been entirely lost. There's been a methodical approach to shaving weight where possible, which is surely good news. Forged wheels plus suspension components constructed from aluminium and high-tensile steel will feature.

At the rear, Mini has tweaked the multi-link set-up with a wider track gauge and 'greater rigidity in the wheel suspension'. The spatial design of the rear axle is what contributes to the increased boot space.

And of course, there are the adjustable dampers to discuss. According to Mini, they offer 'either a sporty or a balanced, comfortable chassis'; given the unyielding ride has been one of the biggest criticisms of the current Mini, the dampers will surely be a very desirable extra.

Auto box will work with nav on gear selection
Auto box will work with nav on gear selection
Without any details on the specifics, Mini's torque steer compensation system on the electric power steering also sounds intriguing. As the name suggests, it counteracts the front axle wiggle associated with powerful FWD cars. Can it match the effectiveness of a proper diff?

Talk of safety again mentions how light and rigid the next Mini will be without actually revealing a kerbweight figure. High strength, multi-phase steels are reputedly key to this, with reinforcement around the B pillars and sills for added protection.

Despite its rather dour update, we can't imagine the next Mini will be anything other than a huge laugh. It will mature and grow up in the same way the car did back in 2006, but with plenty of interesting kit that prioritises fun. When we here more news, strait-laced or silly, you'll be the first to know.

Want more? See the Mini press release in its entirety here.

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drewbagz

Original Poster:

183 posts

194 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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what...... the fudge...... is that?!?!

It looks like the Chinese ripped off the mini.... again!

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

186 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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The 07 onwards Minis are not PSA engines. PSA is really just a customer of them - they are BMW units.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

177 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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BMW should just use your last paragraph for the press release.

'.............we can't imagine the next Mini will be anything other than a huge laugh. It will mature and grow up in the same way the car did back in 2006, but with plenty of interesting kit that prioritises fun.'


bum-lick tongue out

court

1,491 posts

246 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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drewbagz said:
what...... the fudge...... is that?!?!

It looks like the Chinese ripped off the mini.... again!
That was a concept/design study, here is the actual car.. http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/all-new...

Dr Interceptor

8,183 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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drewbagz said:
what...... the fudge...... is that?!?!

It looks like the Chinese ripped off the mini.... again!
Yes, the Prince engine was designed by BMW, but PSA were more than a customer, they were a co-partner, and as such BMW had to make a lot of French-led concessions in its design, for example the arse-about-face orientation that Peugeot engineers seem to insist on.

This is the first time MINI will get an all BMW petrol engine.

Skater12

507 posts

188 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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It's another Min...... no wait, average sized adventure !

Dr Interceptor

8,183 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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And if anyone wants to see the actual car... http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/30/2015-mini-coope...

kwak

210 posts

182 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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Am I the only one that thinks that the gps-enabled gearbox will be a lot of fun a few years down the line, when the maps are horribly outdated?

drewbagz

Original Poster:

183 posts

194 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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court said:
drewbagz said:
what...... the fudge...... is that?!?!

It looks like the Chinese ripped off the mini.... again!
That was a concept/design study, here is the actual car.. http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/all-new...
It would appear I have some catching up to do, though the actual car still isn't that much of a looker and does resemble the Lifan 320....


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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looks a little bit more upright ala fiat 500. the actual car btw not the image linked in the article above.

why have PH not used the spy shots of the actual car?

loudlashadjuster

6,505 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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kwak said:
Am I the only one that thinks that the gps-enabled gearbox will be a lot of fun a few years down the line, when the maps are horribly outdated?
The vast majority of roads don't change from one decade to the next.

David87

7,036 posts

242 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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So then, do I buy that R56 JCW GP or not? confused

Mudgey

683 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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How on earth have they designed the engines for peak torque at 1250 rpm ?! Does the torque curve massively fall away towards the red line?

Ali_T

3,379 posts

287 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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No matter how clever it is under the skin, I'm still going to burst out laughing everytime I see one.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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David87 said:
So then, do I buy that R56 JCW GP or not? confused
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David87

7,036 posts

242 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
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Thanks for that. biggrin I have to say, it's your thread that's done it! Seeing as you too have owned an R26.R and regret flogging it, the GP seems a good choice. The fact I know someone who works for MINI and could get it quite cheap is yet more reason to buy. Oh dear... hehe

LuS1fer

43,546 posts

275 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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It's a shame Austin-Rover completely missed the "911-ness" of the Mini's popularity. I would have thought that by now the retro thing would have worn off and BMW might start looking at a totally radical new MINI, I mean utterly and completely radical. like the original.

I suppose retro is still very popular (and blinding, given the Fiat 500L and Mini Countryman).

This...I quite like it.

Frenchie87

39 posts

162 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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No a fan of it looks at all to be honest.

On the other hand, that GP above looks beautiful.

J4CKO

46,992 posts

230 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
David87 said:
So then, do I buy that R56 JCW GP or not? confused
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Is it just me or is that an utter Dogs Dinner, stuff with the Cooper badge always had functional body mods and performance enhancenment, not sure where that fits into the ethos.


A Scotsman

1,001 posts

229 months

Tuesday 1st October 2013
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The interior looks like it was designed by someone on crack.