RE: Pure Driving Experiences: Isle of Man
Tuesday 1st October 2013
Pure Driving Experiences: Isle of Man
The TT course is an epic drive on four wheels as well as two
The latest in the series of Pure Driving Experiences videos sponsored by Dunlop takes Steve Sutcliffe to the Isle of Man to follow in the wheel tracks of motorcyling heroes. Dunlop's a name synonymous with the TT, both the famous family forever associated with the race and the tyres on which this year's dominant force Michael Dunlop competed on - as tested by PH2.
Steve's Mercedes A45 AMG has four Dunlop shod wheels on it - he does mention this on occasion - but the infamous mountain course appears no less thrilling for it. The better for it actually being closed off and totally free of other traffic.
See the vid here.
Previous videos:
Dunlop Pure Driving Experiences: Hardknott Pass
Dunlop Pure Driving Experiences: Crickhowell
Dunlop Pure Driving Experiences: A6 Autobahn
Dunlop Pure Driving Experiences: Stelvio Pass
Discussion
tosh.brice said:
The only thing delivering grip is the Dunlops?
Nothing to do with suspension, 4WD, weight distribution, etc?
No, he's quite correct. With a set of Dunlop Sportsmaxx tyres on my Gran's car has exactly the same amount of grip as that Mercedes. Thank you Tata Nano; thank you Dunlop!Nothing to do with suspension, 4WD, weight distribution, etc?
But he is right about one thing: the Mountain Road is a bit special.. 
I'm up there several times a week to walk the hounds - or rather let them have a run while I watch the traffic from afar. On a summer's evening it's like being by the 'Ring; sure, there's mostly folk like me going from A to B but you don't have to wait long for a couple of bikers with loud pipes to scythe a fine tune across the Manx sky or a Caterfield, Mk2 Golf, Aston or BM to blast past "on one". It's a fantastic place when it's like that. Not quite so much when the mist descends again though! Or if it's closed so some freeloader can have a thrash..
Just wish I'd had a decent example of an Accord Type-R, not one with balsa wood brakes among other issues. For now my Puma will have to do.

I'm up there several times a week to walk the hounds - or rather let them have a run while I watch the traffic from afar. On a summer's evening it's like being by the 'Ring; sure, there's mostly folk like me going from A to B but you don't have to wait long for a couple of bikers with loud pipes to scythe a fine tune across the Manx sky or a Caterfield, Mk2 Golf, Aston or BM to blast past "on one". It's a fantastic place when it's like that. Not quite so much when the mist descends again though! Or if it's closed so some freeloader can have a thrash..
Just wish I'd had a decent example of an Accord Type-R, not one with balsa wood brakes among other issues. For now my Puma will have to do.
Oddsock said:
But he is right about one thing: the Mountain Road is a bit special.. 
I'm up there several times a week to walk the hounds - or rather let them have a run while I watch the traffic from afar. On a summer's evening it's like being by the 'Ring; sure, there's mostly folk like me going from A to B but you don't have to wait long for a couple of bikers with loud pipes to scythe a fine tune across the Manx sky or a Caterfield, Mk2 Golf, Aston or BM to blast past "on one". It's a fantastic place when it's like that. Not quite so much when the mist descends again though! Or if it's closed so some freeloader can have a thrash..
Just wish I'd had a decent example of an Accord Type-R, not one with balsa wood brakes among other issues. For now my Puma will have to do.
Glad you've got one good road, not like the rest of them which are potholed, dug up, or full of dithering elderly Manx drivers! The ramp onto the ferry was smoother than Douglas prom.
I'm up there several times a week to walk the hounds - or rather let them have a run while I watch the traffic from afar. On a summer's evening it's like being by the 'Ring; sure, there's mostly folk like me going from A to B but you don't have to wait long for a couple of bikers with loud pipes to scythe a fine tune across the Manx sky or a Caterfield, Mk2 Golf, Aston or BM to blast past "on one". It's a fantastic place when it's like that. Not quite so much when the mist descends again though! Or if it's closed so some freeloader can have a thrash..
Just wish I'd had a decent example of an Accord Type-R, not one with balsa wood brakes among other issues. For now my Puma will have to do.
n4aat said:
That is a really clumsy advert. And the video is s
t. Pointless article unless you are getting a kickback.
Sutcliffe is just 'freelance' enough that Haymarket can use him to sell stuff without tarring their 'journalist reputation' I guess - he's described Autocar's "editor at large" which I guess is just enough distance to excuse this sort of shilling...
t. Pointless article unless you are getting a kickback.Marketting people do need to realise that it's just jarring and naff - car-related brands have been satisfied with being a sticker on a bumper or a hoarding or a buzzword for eons, making themselves more 'obvious' like this is risky IMO.
See also the Audi Autobahn video etc...
T0MMY said:
tosh.brice said:
The only thing delivering grip is the Dunlops?
Nothing to do with suspension, 4WD, weight distribution, etc?
No, he's quite correct. With a set of Dunlop Sportsmaxx tyres on my Gran's car has exactly the same amount of grip as that Mercedes. Thank you Tata Nano; thank you Dunlop!Nothing to do with suspension, 4WD, weight distribution, etc?
An exhilarating, terrifying road to drive... when you've got a clear run at it. I've com perilously close to losing an Alfa on there in 2000/01 when not giving the bends all due respect. Don't know too much about the new Merc but it's obvious to me the guy is giving it a proper hooning... And it looks special in the process.
Obviously I've seen the road run on two wheels plenty of times before so quite like to see it being tackled on four wheels. Never seen this before... But going for a snoop around YouTube now quietly confident I'll see more than a few spills featuring over-confident Loeb wannabees.
Think a few of you are being a bit harsh on PH...And certainly unrealistic. The minute PH start charging me to use their channels will be the minute I take exception.
Obviously I've seen the road run on two wheels plenty of times before so quite like to see it being tackled on four wheels. Never seen this before... But going for a snoop around YouTube now quietly confident I'll see more than a few spills featuring over-confident Loeb wannabees.
Think a few of you are being a bit harsh on PH...And certainly unrealistic. The minute PH start charging me to use their channels will be the minute I take exception.
Perhaps the powers that be in the IoM should consider a car competition over this section or part of it? Perhaps the sum of two timed runs - one out and one back - might work? That could attract a lot of interest and more tourism for the island if the classes included road going cars as well as out and out racers.
I've just been reading through the thread, thought I'd get involved.
Firstly I think it's quite clear that Dunlop are sponsors of this content, so comments along the lines of 'how much were you paid for this' seem pointless (in the nicest way). Yes it's a sponsored feature, we are a business after all and bills need paying.
However, what we will never do is sell poor content for the sake of a dollar. Dunlop and PH sat around a table and devised the Dream Drives concept (including reader submitted articles) and we spend a lot 'on location' shooting a new video for you every month using a great car and a great road...and some bloke called Steve. We want to deliver quality content, not just overrun the site with adverts.
We will be meeting with Dunlop later today and all feedback will be discussed, the aim being to make the next video(s) more appealing and interesting. At the end of the day we just want to deliver useful content that you enjoy watching and that is what we (PH and Dunlop) will strive to do here on in.
Sound fair?
Firstly I think it's quite clear that Dunlop are sponsors of this content, so comments along the lines of 'how much were you paid for this' seem pointless (in the nicest way). Yes it's a sponsored feature, we are a business after all and bills need paying.
However, what we will never do is sell poor content for the sake of a dollar. Dunlop and PH sat around a table and devised the Dream Drives concept (including reader submitted articles) and we spend a lot 'on location' shooting a new video for you every month using a great car and a great road...and some bloke called Steve. We want to deliver quality content, not just overrun the site with adverts.
We will be meeting with Dunlop later today and all feedback will be discussed, the aim being to make the next video(s) more appealing and interesting. At the end of the day we just want to deliver useful content that you enjoy watching and that is what we (PH and Dunlop) will strive to do here on in.
Sound fair?
The video would be fair if Autocar was allowed to comment on any thing positive or negative about the car or the tires. And if Autocar has nothing negative to say at all, then that is what they should say. To simply have an test driver exclaim a car and tires are great, gives little useful feedback for the reader. martin
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