Another NSL bites the dust.....
Another NSL bites the dust.....
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cwk

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213 posts

295 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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The A404 betweeen Batchworth Hill (Rickmansworth) and Northwood has been closed for resurfacing. It re-opened last week.

Previously, 60mph limit - my wife drives it 2-4 times a day and doesn't remember any crashes on it. The surface is now much smoother, especially on the sharpish corner - so it's now a much "safer" road.

So, why has the limit been reduced to 40mph? Does anyone here who's familiar with that road know why?

And, how long until there are no NSL roads within the M25. Or anywhere else, for that matter

Charles

pmanson

13,388 posts

282 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Charles YHM

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Closed for over a month! I thought they were putting in a dual carriageway or something.. especially inconvenient given that it's kind of a major route in the area.

I'd be interested to know too ..

cwk

Original Poster:

213 posts

295 months

Friday 29th October 2004
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pmanson said:
Charles YHM


Phill, likewise!
Charles

bryan35

1,906 posts

270 months

Friday 29th October 2004
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try driving to the east coast from leeds.
Neraly all the roads are 40MPH now. lovely long country roads, no houses, no bends, no turn offs. All 40.

hughesie2

12,790 posts

311 months

Friday 29th October 2004
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I believe it was done after consultation with the residents of the road...

Work ran over by 2 weeks, but, nice and grippy down there now, still havent managed to sort the bump out on the nasty bend half way, still, full 5-10 mph quicker through their now !!

RichB

56,275 posts

313 months

Friday 29th October 2004
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hughesie2 said:
I believe it was done after consultation with the residents of the road.
Oh they will be experts in setting speed limites then? Rich...

hughesie2

12,790 posts

311 months

Friday 29th October 2004
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RichB said:

hughesie2 said:
I believe it was done after consultation with the residents of the road.

Oh they will be experts in setting speed limites then? Rich...


Nope, and i'm as angry as you are about the whole thing (i use it everyday at 6am)and had already fired off a letter to Three Rivers District Council...

james_j

3,996 posts

284 months

Friday 29th October 2004
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The lower the limit, the greater the revenue.

james_j

3,996 posts

284 months

Friday 29th October 2004
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...would they listen to millions of motorists all calling for limits to be raised? Of course not, they choose who to listen to; whoever makes a request which fits their agenda.

cwk

Original Poster:

213 posts

295 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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hughesie2 said:


Nope, and i'm as angry as you are about the whole thing (i use it everyday at 6am)and had already fired off a letter to Three Rivers District Council...


hughesie2,
I was wondering - any reply from Three Rivers?
Charles

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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james_j said:
...would they listen to millions of motorists all calling for limits to be raised?


Now THERE's an idea.

Lobby for increased speed limits, and introduction of minimum speeds (which increase every year). Have more cameras, and fine people for driving too slowly, as they are causing congestion and hindering the progress of law-abiding travellers.

bryan35

1,906 posts

270 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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why not just do everyone for everything! That way there's no problem.

Over the speed limit - speeding,
Under the speed limit - causing congestion
At the speed limit - driving with intent to speed.

that's all bases covered then.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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bryan35 said:
why not just do everyone for everything! That way there's no problem.

Over the speed limit - speeding,
Under the speed limit - causing congestion
At the speed limit - driving with intent to speed.

that's all bases covered then.



You forgot:

Not driving at all - Perverting the course of justice

james_j

3,996 posts

284 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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jacobyte said:

bryan35 said:
why not just do everyone for everything! That way there's no problem.

Over the speed limit - speeding,
Under the speed limit - causing congestion
At the speed limit - driving with intent to speed.

that's all bases covered then.




You forgot:

Not driving at all - Perverting the course of justice


What about:

"extra charge for using vehicle at wrong time of day",

"wrong type of car for use to which it is being put".

v8thunder

27,647 posts

287 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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Just another example of statistics-meddling in action. you lower a limit, create some easy-to-catch 'criminals', get some revenue whilst at the same time getting some statistics together that shows the crime detection/punishment rate has improved.

And all the while we have rising levels of violent crime, 'untouchable' scrotes who don't give a toss and emerging ghettoes of chavs ruining everyone's lives. But the statistics say everything's getting better

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

275 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Actually they lowered the limit before hand. I know because I also drive on it, or used to fairly regularly and was shocked to see a 40 limit a few months back.

rodney59

424 posts

277 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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So how would one go about increasing a speed limit?
Say from 40 to 50mph? which a few years ago was NSL, and I believe has the same number of accidents on it now compared to when it was an NSL. (So the slow speed clearly does not work - as speed is not/was not the problem) ??

lanciachris

3,357 posts

270 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Im still quietly fuming over one on the edge of frome. Speed limit went from 60 to 30 overnight. Why? because they are building a supermarket. A year from now.