Early noughties Discovery
Early noughties Discovery
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Garlick

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40,601 posts

270 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Are these money pits?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

I'm thinking one could be a fairly smart-looking way to smoke about (perhaps literally) through the winter and maybe keep hold of it as a useful lugger after that.

Any experiences?

Vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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They are not bad at all, as reflected in the prices the TD5's fetch.

You really want a V8 though.

surveyor

18,705 posts

214 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Was contemplating one. Power looks very easy to grade up on TD5.

Bought an X5 instead. Should have gone for the Disco.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Test Drive one.

I was given one by a LR garage when my D3 was getting a bit if work done.
I had it for 3 days.

It was one of the worst cars I have ever driven.
Not just because of the terrible body roll and handing which may be fixable with new bushes and shocks.

But the whole driving position, seat position, back seats.
They were all poor.

You can clearly see the good ideas.
But these good ideas weren't implemented properly until the D3.

Other opinions are available. wink

Garlick

Original Poster:

40,601 posts

270 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Vixpy1 said:
You really want a V8 though.
Hmm, I'd use it for work miles, going to see the folks in the dales and suchlike. I think this will have to be derv-powered.

0llie

3,175 posts

226 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Loved mine, but mine was a complete money pit unfortunately frown

5 seater does with out rear air suspension which is one less thing to worry about, but injector looms leak oil along loom to ECU which can fry them. Sunroofs leak, gearboxes leak (mine was horrendous for this), windows leak, chassis can rot very badly (unless your gearbox or diffs leak so badly that the chassis is coated in oil...), MAFs can fail, ACE (Active Cornering Enhancement, standard on all but base models) hydraulics can play silly buggers, steering boxes fail, electrics in general are flakey, wheel bearings can fail which throws up Hill Descent, ABS and TC lights (known as the 3 Amigos) which isn't a super cheap fix, I could go on forever!

I really did like mine, I chose the mid-range GS spec thinking less on it means less to go wrong (partially true). Still had dual zone climate, CD Changer, twin (manual) sunroofs, cruise, leather steering wheel etc. Mine had 7 seats, but converted to coils and retained the ACE, ride isn't as good as it is on air, but ACE is very useful.

Mine also had the auto box, suited the character of the car very well, but did leak and wasn't hugely advanced. Absolutely enormous inside, very useful on a trip 4 up and fully loaded to Le Mans in 2012 (where it sat at 90 all day long without an issue). The front seat doesn't go back all that far however (I'm 5ft 6 and had it almost whole way back), and room in the 2nd and 3rd rows isn't huge either. Rear doors are much tighter than you'd expect on a car that side.

Superb at long distance driving, supremely comfortable, superb views out, and fairly quiet. Fuel economy was ok, I got between 17-22mpg locally, up to 30 on a run at 65-70mph. 90mph cruising fully loaded yielded 21mpg. Superb off road (despite the lack of diff locks, which can be re-instated on cars built before March 2001).

Happy to answer any specific questions, all the best smile


Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Garlick said:
Vixpy1 said:
You really want a V8 though.
Hmm, I'd use it for work miles, going to see the folks in the dales and suchlike. I think this will have to be derv-powered.
From a bit of research (was thinking of buying one for my vet Mrs), a diesel will still only realistically get 25mpg and be glacially slow while doing it - a V8 should see 20 at the same pace of a diesel.

chrisw666

22,655 posts

229 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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I loved mine but it wasn't a patch on the Defender that came before it, admittedly the Disco was a couple of years older than the car it replaced but despite the extra spec it wasn't a lot more comfortable and had more niggles. The TD5 is a very good diesel lump though.

PugwasHDJ80

7,682 posts

251 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Krikkit said:
From a bit of research (was thinking of buying one for my vet Mrs), a diesel will still only realistically get 25mpg and be glacially slow while doing it - a V8 should see 20 at the same pace of a diesel.
get out- 20 fom a LR v8? even on a run I never did better than 17.

0llie

3,175 posts

226 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Following on from my post above, the 4.0 V8 in the D2 suffers from slipped liners.

I also had a 3.9 V8 EFi on a Discovery 1 (essentially an identical engine). Around town and lanes it achieved 12mpg absolute tops, about 22 out of the TD5. The best I ever got on a run in the V8 was 17, the diesel was 30.

The Td5 is far from an unpleasant engine, either. Super easy to tune as well.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

228 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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I'd rather blow a bit more cash, around £4000 and get a Land Cruiser Colorado.

Always worth £4000, they won't drop any cash as there's literally world wide demand, won't break, will take 7 people and luggage and will always, always get you where you want to go

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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PugwasHDJ80 said:
Krikkit said:
From a bit of research (was thinking of buying one for my vet Mrs), a diesel will still only realistically get 25mpg and be glacially slow while doing it - a V8 should see 20 at the same pace of a diesel.
get out- 20 fom a LR v8? even on a run I never did better than 17.
Fair enough, too many lies on the internet!

Garlick

Original Poster:

40,601 posts

270 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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CampDavid said:
I'd rather blow a bit more cash, around £4000 and get a Land Cruiser Colorado.

Always worth £4000, they won't drop any cash as there's literally world wide demand, won't break, will take 7 people and luggage and will always, always get you where you want to go
Bit too big for me, all your points are valid though.

LuS1fer

43,543 posts

275 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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I would rather invest in a Nigerian e-mail firm.

Garlick

Original Poster:

40,601 posts

270 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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LuS1fer said:
I would rather invest in a Nigerian e-mail firm.
What MPG do they return?

LuS1fer

43,543 posts

275 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Garlick said:
LuS1fer said:
I would rather invest in a Nigerian e-mail firm.
What MPG do they return?
I only put a few grand in and shipped my car to them via an agent and, so far, I've not had any return. I'm sure it's just a matter of time but I've saved loads by not having a car to put petrol in. wink

Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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I know it's not the question you asked, but for around £4k there are more reliable and trusted 4x4s.

Hilux Surf (3.0l, not 2.4)
Shogun
Fourtrack
And many more.


Garlick

Original Poster:

40,601 posts

270 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Snowboy said:
I know it's not the question you asked, but for around £4k there are more reliable and trusted 4x4s.

Hilux Surf (3.0l, not 2.4)
Shogun
Fourtrack
And many more.
I'll open myself up for ridicule here but i'll be honest. I'm a stylish chap (ha) to whom image plays a part. I can drive a Land Rover without issue and it will look good in town and country. The Japanese trucks might be superb, but they look a bit....erm, Japanese.

You may now rip the censored out of me, but hey at least I'm honest.

Bill

58,783 posts

285 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Love ours. As a practical family wagon I'd struggle to beat it (admittedly the SMax we had before was faster, more fuel efficient and bigger inside redface). A £225 remap sees similar power to the V8 while getting 25+mpg however you drive it. The seats are comfy, it's civilised enough even on all terrains and it looks better dirty. What's not to like?

Mine's needed a new steering box at 80k (TADTS) and the ACE (essential IMO) seeped a bit but just needed tightening. Other than a few trim niggles it's been fine otherwise and is now on 102k.

sandman77

3,412 posts

168 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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I would avoid like the plague.

I had a 1999 ES spec for about 18 months and it was a money pit. I the time I had mine it needed a new injector loom, steering box, rear diff, the front sunroof was removed and resealed and fuel/water sensor replaced. I am sure there were other things done that I cant remember but it needed almost constant maintenance. I wouldnt have minded to much if it was a nice car to drive but it wasnt. The previous owner of mine had completely removed the ACE system too as that was causing him problems.

Oh, mine was a 5 seater with the rear air suspension.