F12 Berlinetta vs 2014 Corvette C7 vs 991 4S video
F12 Berlinetta vs 2014 Corvette C7 vs 991 4S video
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rosino

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1,395 posts

201 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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Apologies if this one has been posted already..

But pretty interesting (if a bit random) set of cars reunited for a "Drivers car" comparison.. Won't spoil it but result could come as a surprise to some..

Wouldn't mind lapping that track mind you.. that corkscrew corner does look as fierce as ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6y7oeZx9WY


Koln-RS

4,122 posts

241 months

Saturday 5th October 2013
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I saw the original test, which I thought very thorough - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXq9xIYkZ8 - and came out with the same conclusion.

Nice option if the 991 GT3 is too compromised, or the 991 Turbo too expensive.

Callughan

6,313 posts

221 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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With powerkit would be a closer match.

Looking forward to 4 GTS version.

Carl_Docklands

15,831 posts

291 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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Nice vid, shame they did not throw the cayman in as a wild card. I think the yellow cayman s they used on the same circuit makes this 911 look a bit of a dog. Its not like you would really miss the 1.5 secs per lap. I wouldnt mind poning uo the extra cash for the 911 if the car looked better. The f12 is 3 secs per lap quicker than the cayman and has double the engine power.

Koln-RS

4,122 posts

241 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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Various reviews have said the 991 C4S is a better drive than the 991 C2S, which reverses the traditional perception. I have driven both C2 and C4 on loan and did prefer the C4. Didn't feel for a moment that it needed the power kit though.

Younez

1,057 posts

195 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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anonymous said:
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The world has changed and for the better in my view.

Carl_Docklands

15,831 posts

291 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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The 4S seems to get the the nod at the moment do the additional steering feel it provides, I would imagine that once Porsche revise the software for the GTS model, the RWD drive will be the one to have again.

I am not skeptical at all that Porsche did this to the 4S in order to get people into the more expensive car, not in the slightest smile

Koln-RS

4,122 posts

241 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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anonymous said:
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I did ask this very question on here - Is the 991 7-Speed Manual Really That Bad?http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=128...

Unfortunately, the replies were fairly conclusive.

Callughan

6,313 posts

221 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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Carl_Docklands said:
The 4S seems to get the the nod at the moment do the additional steering feel it provides, I would imagine that once Porsche revise the software for the GTS model, the RWD drive will be the one to have again.

I am not skeptical at all that Porsche did this to the 4S in order to get people into the more expensive car, not in the slightest smile
It's again quicker round the ring and read was out selling the 2S.

Agree on steering feel, I always like the extra weight at front and of course wide body but the 4WD now drives with 100% power to the back wheels until need be so really it's 2 cars in 1.

4 GTS keeps its value better than 2 GTS and there were not many reviews for 4 GTSscratchchin

Callughan

6,313 posts

221 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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anonymous said:
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Have you ordered a manual?

Koln-RS

4,122 posts

241 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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anonymous said:
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I wouldn't worry, we all need to take a reality check when contemplating the price of a 997GTS/R8/991. There's lots of very nice Porsche in the £20-25k bracket - with excellent manual gearboxes and hydraulic steering wink

rosino

Original Poster:

1,395 posts

201 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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Carl_Docklands said:
Nice vid, shame they did not throw the cayman in as a wild card. I think the yellow cayman s they used on the same circuit makes this 911 look a bit of a dog. Its not like you would really miss the 1.5 secs per lap. I wouldnt mind poning uo the extra cash for the 911 if the car looked better. The f12 is 3 secs per lap quicker than the cayman and has double the engine power.
Think they did in the original test (link posted above) where the also a Cayman, yellow.


franki68

11,642 posts

250 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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Carl_Docklands said:
The 4S seems to get the the nod at the moment do the additional steering feel it provides, I would imagine that once Porsche revise the software for the GTS model, the RWD drive will be the one to have again.

I am not skeptical at all that Porsche did this to the 4S in order to get people into the more expensive car, not in the slightest smile
I've seen a few reviews prefer the 2s,not a lot but there are some.

rosino

Original Poster:

1,395 posts

201 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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The 2012 was won by the 2s btw.. in the bestest colour of them all as well smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBfugbEIlk4

jump to 28:30 for the top 3

isaldiri

24,788 posts

197 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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anonymous said:
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Doesn't the 991 manual automatically rev match the car? That would take away a lot of the skill and enjoyment in driving a manual surely.