4 Seater Convertibles???
4 Seater Convertibles???
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jay140285

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626 posts

214 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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Looking for a 4 seater convertible.

Big change from the Mrs using the V8 Jeep as her daily but we now have another Jeep off road prep'd with winches and ARB bumpers, lifted etc. So this will cover taking the dog out, towing trailer etc.

I have a company Passat 170bhp 2013 now remapped, so this is the really economical car we have.

Looking to spend up to 5k.
Ideally 2004 upwards
Petrol or diesel but want something with a bit of get up and go.
Less than 80k preferably, only as the Jeep is at 100k and would like something with less on if changing.
Needs a semi ok boot (RX8 boot was ok for comparison)

Does anyone have experience of the options below / recommendations. Its going to be my wife's main daily driver. She likes to drive and had the RX8 and WRX in the past.

Options I have got are.

Saab 2.0T Aero
Saab 2.8 Aero

Audi A4 from the 1.8T up to the 3litre petrol
Audi A4 TDI variants
Audi A4 S4 but the running costs of this would be terrifying and would be high miles I expect

Merc CLK - Friends have one and not taken by it for some reason.

BMW E46 325 or 330 petrol

Volvo option seems to be an expensive old shape and not enough money for the newer shape.

Had a Vauxhall Astra convertible as a stop gap car in the past its not the build quality we are after as a car to keep for a couple of years hence the more premium choices above.

So any advice / other options on the above. Value for money seems to be on the Saabs, owner a 2005 9-3 TID in the past and a 2004 9-5 Aero.

Cheers

James


Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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I have an Audi A4 2.5l diesel manual.
8 years old now.

It's a great car.
For all the cars of the age I'd say it's got the best interior for 4 adults.
Good power, 35-45 mpg depending on driving style.
Nice looking dashboard, good seating position.

It's by no means a rwd track car.
But it's a very nice fwd road car.

Mines just had full geo done at an independent specialist - which I'd personally suggest is worth doing on any car of that age.


Edit. Just fixed the typo from 2.4 to 2.5 as the polite gentleman below pointed it out.

Edited by Snowboy on Monday 7th October 08:49

DocArbathnot

29,055 posts

213 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Snowboy said:
I have an Audi A4 2.4l diesel manual.
No such thing.

Skyedriver

23,578 posts

312 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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A great question I have been trying to answer.

Porsche 911 - just don't get them at their price and I've driven a few
Porsche 944/68 Cabrio - rear seats just too small and lap belts only
Triumph Stag - always loved them from when they were current but the rust, the price, the alledged reliability issues, the lack of rear belts or lap only
Saab - not sure but refer RWD, they supposedly suffered scuttle shake but never tried one
Audi - sorry not an audi fan that's all
BMW 3 Series - E30 now out of reach price wise, E36 a possibility but all high miles, E46 a bit too expensive still unless mega miles
Volvo C70 - good call but the old shape based on the old 850 platform from the early 90's and the later ones more than your budget
Reliant Scimitar GTC- some were galvanised chassis, all F/G body and simple mechanics, lap belts only in the rear and at the minute I cannot dfind a way of improving on that. Otherwise that would be my choice.
TBH I'm heading back into BM territory and thinking either E36(M?) or E46 320/330/petrol/deisel not sure. Just keep thinking depreciation and big service bills as they look a bit complex under the bonnet. Oh and E46 have a rear subframe problem alledgedly, no personal experience.

Wife loved a Ford Cortina Mk 1 Convertible at a show earlier in the year - i'd have one of them in a flash.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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BMW's are a Marmite question.
I find their clean German corporate efficiency to make for a dull car. Too much like driving an office desk.
Others seem to like it.

The Merc has tiny backseats.
So does the Porsche.
The Saab I test drive just seemed lacklustre, as did the Volvo.

I bought the Audi at 6 months old, and test drove all of the contemporaries at the time.
In my eyes the Audi was the best of all of them.


jay140285

Original Poster:

626 posts

214 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Thoughts VW Eos?

I do think the Audi is a nice looking car. But which is best option with engine.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

181 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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jay140285 said:
But which is best option with engine.
It's been a long time since my test drives.
But, from what I recall the 2.5d was the best drive of the options available.
It's a v6 turbo, pretty quiet normally, but a happy v6 rumble when you floor it.

I think the other options were a 1.8 petrol turbo or a 2.0l na.
Neither of which felt as powerful as the diesel.

Although I think there was a 'type-r' equivalent sort of thing, that I didn't look at.

Oh, I also got the sports suspension package.
I like a firm drive and I found it too soft with normal suspension.
Odly enough the magazines at the time complained the sports suspension was too stiff. So it's really about personal preference.

s_zigmond

1,217 posts

216 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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No idea what they are like, but for something different Chrysler Sebring?

Personally my money would go on a Saab, but I'm a bit of a Saab fan, so a bit biased.

Cupramax

11,007 posts

282 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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s_zigmond said:
No idea what they are like, but for something different Chrysler Sebring?
rofl Seriously? no, an A4 cab is on another planet to this. On your budget a nice 1.8t manual A4 cab will take some beating. Avoid multitronics due to severe risk of bork.

nagsheadwarrior

2,789 posts

209 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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s_zigmond said:
No idea what they are like, but for something different Chrysler Sebring?

Personally my money would go on a Saab, but I'm a bit of a Saab fan, so a bit biased.
I think thats a good shout you know, I sold them in the States for a bit back in 2002 and the ones from that year were a genuinely good looking car,theyre very American so far from a drivers car and the interiors a bit American scratchy plastic too but I think they make a great cruiser and something very different from another Audi!

E.T.A- Having re-read the brief the Sebring probably wont feel "premium" enough for the o.p!

Edited by nagsheadwarrior on Monday 7th October 10:36

drocter81

311 posts

236 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Always preferred the E46 cabs over the A4s.. nicer to drive and even a 325i/330i six cylinder jobbie could coax out some decent mpg and still spank a 2.4/3.0 A4. CLK 240 not a bad shout for waftability and if economy isn't an issue, XK8??

jay140285

Original Poster:

626 posts

214 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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XK8, what are the rear seats like?

scrwright

3,184 posts

220 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Jay, i can see you driving this! wink


scrwright

3,184 posts

220 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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But if I had £5k to sink into a soft top it would be a classic 900. Either full soft one or a webesto sunroof hardtop. Nice one here with low miles
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...

even better one
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...


dele

1,270 posts

224 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Sorry to be "that guy" but why on earth would anyone buy a diesel convertible? :/

As for E46's, a friend had a 330ci and took me out in it, was beautifully quiet and pulled like a train, imagine my shock when he told me it'd just clocked 175,000 miles, you would never have guessed it, buy on condition! not milage

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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jay140285 said:
XK8, what are the rear seats like?
Quite small. You could fit an adult in, but it really wouldn't be fair. And the front seats would need to not be all the way back.

There is more room in the back of a Mustang or Camaro.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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jay140285 said:
XK8, what are the rear seats like?
Almost non existent. More a shelf for storing stuff. I certainly wouldn't want to squeeze 4 adults in for more than a couple of miles journey.

Luke.

12,041 posts

280 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
There is more room in the back of a Mustang or Camaro.
You never fail to deliver.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Luke. said:
300bhp/ton said:
There is more room in the back of a Mustang or Camaro.
You never fail to deliver.
What by comparing to other 2+2 GT style vehicles, available for similar money and with similar performance and abilities. Oh and vehicles I've experienced, so can actually offer a first hand opinion on. wink

J4CKO

46,989 posts

230 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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I think the BMW is probably the best but always think the beltline is too low so you sit on display a bit somehow, the Saab seems to be better in that respect and a lot classier, you never really gangs of geysers in them like the BMW.