Evoque- petrol or diesel?
Evoque- petrol or diesel?
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Grandfondo

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12,241 posts

230 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Hi guys, I drove a diesel evoke after they came out and thought the only thing that let the car down was the engine!
Has anyone bought a petrol?
What did you think of performance,economy and most importantly residuals GFV ?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Isn't the petrol one restricted to the top model. Therefore I expect less people will buy them, simply because they cost more. Shame as I suspect it's the much better engine.

budrover

300 posts

228 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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I was taken out in a 2ltr turbo - 250bhp ...it flew !!!

Didn't realise the petrol was on offer in uk...looked about 6 months ago and didn't seem to be on 'menu'

Rochester TVR

3,314 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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My parents have got an Evoque Si4. They seem to be getting about 26mpg combined but it's only done 3000miles so it might improve.

daemon

39,229 posts

221 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Grandfondo said:
Hi guys, I drove a diesel evoke after they came out and thought the only thing that let the car down was the engine!
Has anyone bought a petrol?
What did you think of performance,economy and most importantly residuals GFV ?
GFV?

You're not thinking about FINANCE?

I thought that was the devils work and certainly not for a Powerfully Built Company Director like yourself??

Grandfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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daemon said:
Grandfondo said:
Hi guys, I drove a diesel evoke after they came out and thought the only thing that let the car down was the engine!
Has anyone bought a petrol?
What did you think of performance,economy and most importantly residuals GFV ?
GFV?

You're not thinking about FINANCE?

I thought that was the devils work and certainly not for a Powerfully Built Company Director like yourself??
Yes it's my business car and as I have said before my business cars are financed because my accountant says it's more efficient!
And by the way I am not a company director! wink

daemon

39,229 posts

221 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Grandfondo said:
daemon said:
Grandfondo said:
Hi guys, I drove a diesel evoke after they came out and thought the only thing that let the car down was the engine!
Has anyone bought a petrol?
What did you think of performance,economy and most importantly residuals GFV ?
GFV?

You're not thinking about FINANCE?

I thought that was the devils work and certainly not for a Powerfully Built Company Director like yourself??
Yes it's my business car and as I have said before my business cars are financed because my accountant says it's more efficient!
And by the way I am not a company director! wink
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forest172

754 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Our diesel Evoque only returned 27.5mpg as the daily hack. Just sold it and in 2 years I only lost £5k On a pure sd4 non nav model. Pleased with that!

Triple7

4,015 posts

261 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Really bad mpg for a clean sheet designed car. When bi-turbo Bimmers get 40mpg+ for their big capacity M cars, really need to sort this out LR. Is 9 speed gearbox the answer though....

camel_landy

5,418 posts

207 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Triple7 said:
Really bad mpg for a clean sheet designed car. When bi-turbo Bimmers get 40mpg+ for their big capacity M cars, really need to sort this out LR. Is 9 speed gearbox the answer though....
That's more than a little unfair as how you drive it makes a HUGE difference to the figures.

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Grandfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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The people that I have talked to have all been disappointed with the mpg!

Grandfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Any word on the RS model Evoque?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Grandfondo said:
The people that I have talked to have all been disappointed with the mpg!
I think what you need to do is then filter out the realistic expectations from those that have no idea what NEDC is.

Claimed figures are done to a standard simulate test. A diesel turbo vehicle can excel at the test, however most people will likely drive quite differently on the road to the test standard. Thus get wildly different mpg figures.

When all said and done the Evoque is still a fairly large AWD vehicle with a large frontal area. And thus will typically manage the same mpg that such vehicles attain. Land Rover have to adhere to the same laws as physics as everyone else.

camel_landy

5,418 posts

207 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
Grandfondo said:
The people that I have talked to have all been disappointed with the mpg!
I think what you need to do is then filter out the realistic expectations from those that have no idea what NEDC is.

Claimed figures are done to a standard simulate test. A diesel turbo vehicle can excel at the test, however most people will likely drive quite differently on the road to the test standard. Thus get wildly different mpg figures.

When all said and done the Evoque is still a fairly large AWD vehicle with a large frontal area. And thus will typically manage the same mpg that such vehicles attain. Land Rover have to adhere to the same laws as physics as everyone else.
Exactly... I can get over 32mpg out of a TDV8 RRS but to do that, I have to drive like my old man! However, if I drive 'normally', I'll get 26mpg. (IIRC - The official figures are 27-29.)

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Grandfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
Grandfondo said:
The people that I have talked to have all been disappointed with the mpg!
I think what you need to do is then filter out the realistic expectations from those that have no idea what NEDC is.

Claimed figures are done to a standard simulate test. A diesel turbo vehicle can excel at the test, however most people will likely drive quite differently on the road to the test standard. Thus get wildly different mpg figures.

When all said and done the Evoque is still a fairly large AWD vehicle with a large frontal area. And thus will typically manage the same mpg that such vehicles attain. Land Rover have to adhere to the same laws as physics as everyone else.
An earlier poster said his parents are getting around 26 mpg out of a petrol so 27 mpg from a diesel is not great to be honest and the fact the diesel is pretty rough then the petrol might be the way forward for me!

I do 5k a year with lots of short journeys so DPF is also a concern.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Grandfondo said:
An earlier poster said his parents are getting around 26 mpg out of a petrol so 27 mpg from a diesel is not great to be honest and the fact the diesel is pretty rough then the petrol might be the way forward for me!

I do 5k a year with lots of short journeys so DPF is also a concern.
Not meaning any offence, but if you can afford a new petrol Evoque, surely only doing 5000 miles a year in it, it almost doesn't matter what mpg it manages? The cost difference in fuel is likely to be negligible, even for widely differing mpgs.

Re: the actual claims.

The trouble is, unless you know how and where a person gets a certain mpg and for how long or how often. The numbers don't mean a huge amount.

The person with the petrol one might be telling you their best mpg after a long steady motorway drive, while the diesel owner might be ragging their vehicle hard all the time and in a lot of start-stop traffic.

For instance, in almost every car I've owned I'm able to alter the mpg the vehicle gets buy 30-40% with relative ease (more in some cases). Depending on where I drive and how.

What you really want to find out is the type of use the vehicles is being used for and the mode average that owner gets rather than the mean average.

Grandfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
Grandfondo said:
An earlier poster said his parents are getting around 26 mpg out of a petrol so 27 mpg from a diesel is not great to be honest and the fact the diesel is pretty rough then the petrol might be the way forward for me!

I do 5k a year with lots of short journeys so DPF is also a concern.
Not meaning any offence, but if you can afford a new petrol Evoque, surely only doing 5000 miles a year in it, it almost doesn't matter what mpg it manages? The cost difference in fuel is likely to be negligible, even for widely differing mpgs.

Re: the actual claims.

The trouble is, unless you know how and where a person gets a certain mpg and for how long or how often. The numbers don't mean a huge amount.

The person with the petrol one might be telling you their best mpg after a long steady motorway drive, while the diesel owner might be ragging their vehicle hard all the time and in a lot of start-stop traffic.

For instance, in almost every car I've owned I'm able to alter the mpg the vehicle gets buy 30-40% with relative ease (more in some cases). Depending on where I drive and how.

What you really want to find out is the type of use the vehicles is being used for and the mode average that owner gets rather than the mean average.
No offence taken,I am not interested in the diesel as I mentioned in the op I drove an early one and it was pants.the real concern more than a few pounds in fuel is the residual values because most people are brainwashed into buying diesels!
Nobody yet ha come back with the difference in GFV for them both?

camel_landy

5,418 posts

207 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Grandfondo said:
...I am not interested in the diesel as I mentioned in the op I drove an early one and it was pants.the real concern more than a few pounds in fuel is the residual values because most people are brainwashed into buying diesels!
TBH - I think people are starting to come around to the idea that diesel isn't as cheap/economic as it once was...

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Grandfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Are there any dealers on here that can tell me is there a difference in GFV between identical cars but with different engines?

David87

6,979 posts

236 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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I've covered 10k miles in an Evoque Si4 and it's very pleasant. MPG isn't great, but it never was going to be.