RE: Mini Cooper Clubvan: PH Fleet
RE: Mini Cooper Clubvan: PH Fleet
Tuesday 8th October 2013

Mini Cooper Clubvan: PH Fleet

It's a diesel van not a supercar but it has been hanging out with a few



Over the past few weeks, the Mini has been earning its keep as a runaround for our excellent PH tech team. It appears to have been in a cycle of attending Sunday Services and visiting DIY stores, which is probably to be expected from a PH van. How has it fared? Read on to find out...

A hard-working member of the PH team, yesterday
A hard-working member of the PH team, yesterday
Phil:
"I really have used the Mini in the most hellish of places... B&Q on a Saturday. The trip confirmed a few things. Anything stored in the back, be it bags of plaster or whatever, will roll around move back and forth and slam into the mesh divide separating the cabin under slight (alright, heavy) braking. It also confirmed the modest length of the boot when my tiny stepladder could only be ferried by leaving the door open. Queue constant 'bong' reminders. Very annoying.

"Much more enjoyable was the Sunday Service at Rolls-Royce where the nice man took the keys and said he'd park it out front next to the Wraith and get it cleaned. Fantastic, except the latter was sadly a joke. I was rather looking forward to the finest RR wax-on wax-off treatment. To the car wash then..."

Shock horror - van doing ... van stuff!
Shock horror - van doing ... van stuff!
Matt Dell:
"With the recent slew of PH Sunday Services I've had plenty of time with the Mini. It's a great drive, especially on the B-roads and even around Silverstone (thank you, Britcar), but the biggest challenge I've presented to the van is the all-important trip to Ikea.

"The rear space of the Clubvan is surprisingly small so I made sure to measure carefully the rear depth before making any large purchases. The rear space measures out at 3.5 size 12 loafers [an American unit of measurement for 'trunks' he tells us - Ed.] in depth, which means I just managed to squeeze a medium sized chest of drawers in the back along with a few other random bits. The trip was a success, though I could have done it just as easily in a regular Mini Clubman.

"I've found the Clubvan to be surprisingly impractical as it has only two seats and not much extra space or rear visibility. I suppose it fills a niche, but for my money I'd go with the regular model with extra seats and enjoy the simple pleasure of some rear windows."

The humble van in far from humble company
The humble van in far from humble company
Switch:
"In the last few weeks I've done a fair few miles in the Mini, including Sunday Services at Aston Martin and Vauxhall plus the Wilton House run.

"The Mini has served me well in the early mornings, the climate control able to fight off the worst advances of the mid-summer heat while also ridding me of that early morning chill.

"On the run down to Wilton House it kept up (just) with much faster machinery. Any avid PHer would be ecstatic to pass even one of the supercar convoy on the motorway, and I was more than happy to watch and listen with the window wound down.

"My ears were assaulted by Chris's Enzo. He pulled up alongside the Mini, gestured for me to drop the window and then grinned like a man who knew what was coming (and was wearing race ear defenders); he dropped a gear and floored it, unleashing a towering wall of sound ... My God. That car, under load, makes an absolutely unholy noise and I was laughing myself silly for the next few miles with that V12 still ringing in my ears. The huge grin on my face was only surpassed by the two chaps in the Morgan 3-Wheeler doing a fair rate of knots in the same convoy.

Objects in the mirror are ... not 1.6 diesels
Objects in the mirror are ... not 1.6 diesels
"If you drive the Mini in a, err, committed fashion and spend a lot of time running up and down the gears you can string a series of small roundabouts together in a way which shouldn't be possible in a 'van'....

"And there's the sticking point. YH13UWD claims to be a van, but frankly my old daily MG BGT was more useful for load lugging. It is NOT a big van by any means. In standard form a Mini with seats you could fold down this job would have been a breeze, but not with the pseudo van. Rear visibility when reversing leaves a lot to be desired and would have been much improved by rear parking sensors, though I hope this is a spec issue rather than a model issue."

Next month, Editor Trent joins the PH hoi polloi and swaps McLarens for the Mini. Find out what he thinks soon!

Wilton House vid here


Fact sheet:
Car:
 Mini Cooper D Clubvan
Run by: Everyone!
On fleet since: June 2013
Mileage: 5,156
List price new: £19,575.50 (Basic list of £14,275 +VAT plus £400 for Midnight Black paint, £1,700 for Media Pack, £55 for Storage Pack, £50 for space saver spare, £105 for leather two-spoke steering wheel, £60 for velour floor mats, £45 for warning triangle and first aid kit and £30 for front passenger airbag deactivation switch. All options prices inclusive of VAT.)
Last month at a glance: Mini gatecrashes a party or two, not the end yet!


Previous reports
Mini gets run-in the PH way; to Le Mans!
Urban grind shows Mini at its best
Mini van great as a car, less so as ... a van

   
   
   
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Oddball RS

Original Poster:

1,757 posts

248 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Shock horror, van doing what hatchback will do...................

FestivAli

1,183 posts

268 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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First time I've bonded with my current car was when I used it as a van; I'll probably get a van and only bond with it when I have bums on every seat





If I ever had the money for something fun like the mini I'd probably still buy a 323 and use the rest on a superbike

Carnnoisseur

531 posts

184 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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I'm missing something in relation to the Mini Van, I just cant grasp the reason for it's existence. Granted, it may be great as a PH toy, but I've never even seen one on the road? Be interested to know how many have actually been sold/leased........

dapearson

4,456 posts

254 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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My wife's clubman cooper-s is brilliant. With the back seats down it makes a good load-lugger. Rare too.

Seeing the pics of hatchbacks carrying wooden posts reminds me of an incident i had with an ibiza hatchback we had years ago. I bought some fence posts that were only just short enough to fit in the car - one end against the boot lid, other end on the dashboard.

We were loading the car in the carpark, i gently placed the ends of the posts on the dash (using a cloth to stop them scratching the plastic). At this point the ends were just about in the boot but not quite.

I slammed the boot lid before my wife (watching) could shout "NOOOO!".

BANG!

Posts sticking through the windsceen.

oops!

dbanes

81 posts

307 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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The point of the Clubvan isn't to be a van and carry heaps of stuff (buy a Ford Connect for that) but to be something small trendy business owners can get as a commercial vehicle (leased, without VAT, as tax offset etc) and actually enjoy being in the thing and driving it.

Mini's marketing material conveys this well with pics of vehicles sign written for trendy restaurants, small bakers and arty people. Me, it'll look great sign written for an up market property management business and convey the premium nature of the same well.

dukebox9reg

1,722 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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dbanes said:
The point of the Clubvan isn't to be a van and carry heaps of stuff (buy a Ford Connect for that) but to be something small trendy business owners can get as a commercial vehicle (leased, without VAT, as tax offset etc) and actually enjoy being in the thing and driving it.

Mini's marketing material conveys this well with pics of vehicles sign written for trendy restaurants, small bakers and arty people. Me, it'll look great sign written for an up market property management business and convey the premium nature of the same well.
Lol which was the original position held by the Piaggio Ape, which after driving/riding a big bore version is extremely good fun and I wouldnt be surprised if it had a bigger boot than the Mini

Youd think i would get more fans if they stuck a S engine in it. At least you would then have a half decent excuse to buy one.

em177

3,149 posts

194 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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dbanes said:
The point of the Clubvan isn't to be a van and carry heaps of stuff (buy a Ford Connect for that) but to be something small trendy business owners can get as a commercial vehicle (leased, without VAT, as tax offset etc) and actually enjoy being in the thing and driving it.

Mini's marketing material conveys this well with pics of vehicles sign written for trendy restaurants, small bakers and arty people. Me, it'll look great sign written for an up market property management business and convey the premium nature of the same well.
This.

disco666

706 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Warning bongs bring about a passionate hatred in me.
A dash light I can tolerate/ignore, buts bongs, beeps, chimes or buzzers make me mad.

I drove a Mercedes for a while which would bong if you put anything on the passenger seat without using the seatbelt- even a file weighing about a kilo.
The bong did not stop, the longest I put up with it was about half an hour!
On many occasions I had to reach across to the passenger door whilst driving, grab the seatbelt and plug it in. And these are supposed to be safety features!

It would seriously put me off a car if it had these warnings, and they are becoming more common it seems.

OutOfSync

220 posts

169 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Bit dangerous to drive that fast in the dark, isn't it?

DreadUK

206 posts

162 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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I saw an original mini estate the other day. I have no doubt you could pack more gear into it than this Mini.....but it was TINY. Makes you realise how bloated cars are nowadays, it never seemed that small when I had one 40 years ago.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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I have to admit, this could be a PH 'secret shame' - but I really, really like the Mini Clubvan. I've seen a couple around lately and reckon an S version could be my perfect little car.

Spyder5

1,071 posts

195 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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I came here wanting to know how it stacked up against the 135. I feel cheated.

gripster

3 posts

156 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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me thinks BMW press dept missed the £700-ish 16'' option wheels off the spec sheet/press handover pack, making "PH's" van £20k+? I get the Clubvan though, at £11.8k once the VAT's back, the basic version is the cheapest way for business to buy into MINI & the better residuals vs the usual fleet fodder. howmanyleft say 509 UK registered as of a week ago. Clubvan Mk2 due out in 18mths or so which will have more load space, so Mk2 should make more sense.

Barchettaman

7,294 posts

162 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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[quote=disco666

I drove a Mercedes for a while which would bong if you put anything on the passenger seat without using the seatbelt- even a file weighing about a kilo.
The bong did not stop, the longest I put up with it was about half an hour!
On many occasions I had to reach across to the passenger door whilst driving, grab the seatbelt and plug it in.
[/quote]

Why didn't you just leave the belt plugged in?

And on a completely different topic, what is the bloke off Quantam Leap doing on Star Trek : Enterprise?

David87

7,035 posts

242 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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The MINI JCW GP is essentially a van too, except it's even less practical due to the large red bar across the middle of the load space. hehe

burwoodman

18,718 posts

276 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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i like the Rolls in the pic

Amirhussain

11,653 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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burwoodman said:
i like the Rolls in the pic
Same, looks very good, a subtle but intimidating presence around it.

FestivAli

1,183 posts

268 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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dapearson said:
My wife's clubman cooper-s is brilliant. With the back seats down it makes a good load-lugger. Rare too.

Seeing the pics of hatchbacks carrying wooden posts reminds me of an incident i had with an ibiza hatchback we had years ago. I bought some fence posts that were only just short enough to fit in the car - one end against the boot lid, other end on the dashboard.

We were loading the car in the carpark, i gently placed the ends of the posts on the dash (using a cloth to stop them scratching the plastic). At this point the ends were just about in the boot but not quite.

I slammed the boot lid before my wife (watching) could shout "NOOOO!".

BANG!

Posts sticking through the windsceen.

oops!
Yeah I thought that was a possibility so I was pretty careful there. That said, looking now it probably would have been better to secure the front of the planks to the seat of something to stop the chance they would go through the windscreen under heavy braking.

I WISH

874 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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NOT MUCH ROOM IN MINIVAN SHOCK

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