Raikkonen no faster than Massa, says Alonso
Raikkonen no faster than Massa, says Alonso
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VolvoT5

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4,155 posts

203 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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So the mind games begin:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24475967

He has a point if you look at the pure stats/results but IMO it is somewhat skewed by the fact that from 08' onwards the car was being developed by MS more towards Massa's style than Kimi's.

Interesting that Alonso feels the need to start the mind games and trying to assert no 1 status so early on; kind of suggests he has zero hope of going to Mclaren or elsewhere as has been hinted at by some people.

Jasandjules

72,560 posts

258 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Well, I think it matters not what he says, Kimi tends to do his talking on the track (just as well because otherwise he would never speak at all)...

Jimbo.

4,213 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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And the histrionics begin!

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Ha he's running scared!!

rdjohn

7,153 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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As Napoleon commented of his new general, "but is he lucky". This seems to be FM's biggest problem right now.

mollytherocker

14,455 posts

238 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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I am hoping for fireworks at ferrari.

Come on!

Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Mind games and Kimi...scratchchin.

NotStig

636 posts

256 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Fernando will work himself up into a frothing fury trying to reduce Kimi to nothing with political manoeuvres.

Kimi won't care, or probably even notice and then drive the car as fast as Fernando. I just hope his motivation doesn't disappear in a cloud of motorboat races, ice cream and vodka.

Roll on 2014, Ferrari will not be a happy place to be but hopefully the racing will be bloody great!

Likes Fast Cars

3,092 posts

194 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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2007 all over again except this time his team-mate aint a rookie!

Can’t wait for Kimi to thrash FA in the first race of the 2014 season.

Oilchange

9,686 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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I like Kimi lots and hope his performance on track does the talking.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Kimi knows he has to do - my money would be on him beating FA next year.

MG CHRIS

9,322 posts

196 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Typical Alonso if I cant win will try and talk st about other drivers why people have such a regard for him I have no idea he been in top cars most of his carer only had 2 titles with a car that was found to be illegal and that was 8 years ago.
He has an overinflated opinion of himself hope kimi annihilates him next year but I bet Alonso will try the same tactics next year.

carinaman

25,108 posts

201 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Alonso will go back to McLaren. JA mooted he may have a clause in his contract allowing him to leave he doesn't have approval over the second driver.

S0 What

3,358 posts

201 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Listening to Ted on the practice it seems Alonso was refering to when Kimi and Filipa were team mates not present time, seems it was taken in the wronge context by certain media ?

RXED

360 posts

219 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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MG CHRIS said:
Typical Alonso if I cant win will try and talk st about other drivers why people have such a regard for him I have no idea he been in top cars most of his carer only had 2 titles with a car that was found to be illegal and that was 8 years ago.
He has an overinflated opinion of himself hope kimi annihilates him next year but I bet Alonso will try the same tactics next year.
Did I miss something? What was illegal on his championship winning cars?

I have a feeling this storey was taken out if context and believe that FA has a lot of respect for Kimi. Until half way through 2014 when Kimi is settled and starts pushing/beating him.

TheArchitect

1,238 posts

208 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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My only concern for Kimi is he struggled last time from my understanding to build the team around him to develop the car. Will this happen again if Fernando is kicking and screaming and Kimi is just giving them feedback and not been overly demanding.

Porky

201 posts

284 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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There's only one way to settle this.........FIGHT!!!!

Derek Smith

49,670 posts

277 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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I think (this is just my opinion and I accept others will disagree and I'm no fanboy of any driver) that in 2007 no one could disagree that Alonso was a more accomplished driver than his rookie team mate. He had it all. But he blew it, for reasons that are not really all that clear, apart from it being attitude. It would seem he could work himself into a lather over something that he really should have been mature enough to put behind him.

I also think (repeat above) that good as Raikk is, he is the slower driver of the two. But the intriguing thing is that this pairing is intriguing. It would be a brave man who would bet a substantial amount on the outcome. (But I bet they'd mention it on here.)

To suggest that Raikk is beyond mind games is to show that you don't understand mind games. Mind you, I'm not sure the route Alonso has chosen is the right way.

My point of view is that Raikk in a Ferrari will be exciting regardless of his team mate. Given Alonso it might just take our minds off the cars.

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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S0 What said:
Listening to Ted on the practice it seems Alonso was refering to when Kimi and Filipa were team mates not present time, seems it was taken in the wronge context by certain media ?
This. To reiterate what i've said on the GP thread, can anyone actually point to what Alonso has said and tell me how it comes across as mind games?

It's Benson being a prick flinging out his usual verbal diarrhea and trying to get some attention for his articles.

mywifeshusband

604 posts

227 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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I doubt that Kimi will respond and that will screw Alonso's mind more than if Kimi did respond.

The trouble is that PR people etc. like a constant stream of stories to catch headlines and make F1 appear more exciting. As long they can keep a F1 story in the headlines it lessens the chance that people will look at other motorsport.