Engine cleaner tested by Top Gear?
Engine cleaner tested by Top Gear?
Author
Discussion

FLAT 6

Original Poster:

480 posts

283 months

Monday 14th October 2013
quotequote all
Apparently Top Gear did a test on engine cleaners and one did show an improvement. Anyone here know what product it was?

My daily driver is a 2003 Audi A6 with a 1.8 Turbo engine. It's now on 130k miles and going OK but fuel consumption is getting a lot worse (sub 24mpg)and it's lost it's sparkle.

I'd like to try an engine cleaner to see if it peps things up a bit.

Archoil seems so expensive it might even work??!!

Any recommendations?

Old Merc

3,796 posts

190 months

Monday 14th October 2013
quotequote all
I`ve been using Forte products for years and it does what it says on the tin.

RammyMP

7,505 posts

176 months

Monday 14th October 2013
quotequote all
It was on fifth gear a few weeks ago. They used a petrol additive that seemed to give the car a few more hp. Was the stuff that they sell at supermarkets, can't remember the name though.

RammyMP

7,505 posts

176 months

PaulKemp

979 posts

168 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
Redex
I used that on old smokers in the 70"a
A bit in the tank to clean things up or remove air filter, fast idle and drizzle it in for a big decoke
They recomended driving to the countryside to do this as on old cars the smog was like a black/grey sandstorm

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

264 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
PaulKemp said:
Redex
I used that on old smokers in the 70"a
A bit in the tank to clean things up or remove air filter, fast idle and drizzle it in for a big decoke
They recomended driving to the countryside to do this as on old cars the smog was like a black/grey sandstorm
You could also put it in the cylinders if you had suspect piston rings. Feck me, I never thought that smoke was going to end!

fatjon

2,298 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
It was bks, probably sponsored by the suppliers. Pause on the shots of the dyno curves and you can see they let off the power on the "before" runs before it reached the peak and on the "after" runs they went up a couple of hundred RPM higher and hit the peak.

It was shallow and unbecoming of a program supposedly dedicated to informing the viewer and entertaiing the car enthusiast.


Sardonicus

19,327 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
fatjon said:
It was bks, probably sponsored by the suppliers. Pause on the shots of the dyno curves and you can see they let off the power on the "before" runs before it reached the peak and on the "after" runs they went up a couple of hundred RPM higher and hit the peak.

It was shallow and unbecoming of a program supposedly dedicated to informing the viewer and entertaiing the car enthusiast.
yes Media hype/bks

KernowSid

295 posts

170 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
Seen a few people on other forums recommending TerraClean (advertised by Ed China from Wheeler Dealers).

Obviously more expensive than a bottle of Redex from Halfrauds!

Anyone had any experience of TerraClean?

henrycrun

2,473 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
Beware. Top Gear don't any testing. Just comedy.

fatjon

2,298 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all


KernowSid said:
Seen a few people on other forums recommending TerraClean (advertised by Ed China from Wheeler Dealers).

Obviously more expensive than a bottle of Redex from Halfrauds!

Anyone had any experience of TerraClean?
It is very effective but mainly at lining the pockets of small TV companies who do advertorials promoting it in their programs. There have been many reputable and genuinely impartial tests which have show it's sole performance increase is from reducing the weight of your wallet.

There is nothing you are going to squirt down your fuel system that is going to de-gum injectors or clean burned on carbon off the combustion chambers, manifold, head or the back of the valves (including redex). If it existed I would have gallons of it in my parts cleaner and save myself the trouble of getting busy with a scraper. Carbon does not disolve in any solvents, including snake oil.


DVandrews

1,375 posts

306 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
Steam cleans carbon off quite effectively, any engine that has had a coolant weep into a cylinder will bear testimony. AFAIK nothing else does enything else worth a damn.

Dace

FLAT 6

Original Poster:

480 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
Thanks all - believers and skeptics alike!!

In the interests of scientific testing, I'm going to have a go with this:

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/2013/5/23/tests-sh...

Available from Amazon.

I'll report back on results, although they won't be that scientific since I don't have access to a 4-wheel drive rolling road. I do track MPG closely though and never get more than 400 miles from a 70 litre tank so that will tell me something.

A.

one eyed mick

1,189 posts

184 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
As Old Merc I have ued Forte products for years petrol and deisel briluant stuff but all they claim is 'better running' no stupid hp claims

NDT

1,766 posts

286 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
quotequote all
fatjon said:
It is very effective but mainly at lining the pockets of small TV companies who do advertorials promoting it in their programs. There have been many reputable and genuinely impartial tests which have show it's sole performance increase is from reducing the weight of your wallet.

There is nothing you are going to squirt down your fuel system that is going to de-gum injectors or clean burned on carbon off the combustion chambers, manifold, head or the back of the valves (including redex). If it existed I would have gallons of it in my parts cleaner and save myself the trouble of getting busy with a scraper. Carbon does not disolve in any solvents, including snake oil.
So the detergent packs that go into pump gasoline and are tested in an industry standard test for back-of-the-valve deposits are rubbish are they?
http://www.tickfordpowertraintest.eu/key-competenc...

PaulKemp

979 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
quotequote all
So its water injection for me then

fatjon

2,298 posts

236 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
quotequote all
NDT said:
fatjon said:
It is very effective but mainly at lining the pockets of small TV companies who do advertorials promoting it in their programs. There have been many reputable and genuinely impartial tests which have show it's sole performance increase is from reducing the weight of your wallet.

There is nothing you are going to squirt down your fuel system that is going to de-gum injectors or clean burned on carbon off the combustion chambers, manifold, head or the back of the valves (including redex). If it existed I would have gallons of it in my parts cleaner and save myself the trouble of getting busy with a scraper. Carbon does not disolve in any solvents, including snake oil.
So the detergent packs that go into pump gasoline and are tested in an industry standard test for back-of-the-valve deposits are rubbish are they?
http://www.tickfordpowertraintest.eu/key-competenc...
Had you read it rather than just posting a link to it you would see that the purpose of those additives is to reduce the deposits of carbon and other products of combustion not to remove what has been deposited.

Stuartggray

7,703 posts

251 months

Monday 21st October 2013
quotequote all
The only thing I found useful was to spray atomised water down the carbs of older vehicles I have owned. Cleaned carbon up brilliantly. I've never cleaned a new fuel injected motor though. Maybe I should try a spray down the throttle body if I can get it to start and run without the pipework attached.

dblack1

230 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
quotequote all
henrycrun said:
Beware. Top Gear don't any testing. Just comedy.
More or less true, but some of the stuff is worth looking at, but so much of it is lies that it is unreal... Look at the episodes where they leave europe, many of those show the real opinion.

The shown product is a detergent additive, many people use them with no negative effect, but some have seen negative effects. Automobile manufacturers don't recommend it in their maintenance schedules. Most fuel and oil contains a detergent additive already, by using these products, you are only adding more (than you need) detergent additive.

DocArbathnot

28,628 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
quotequote all
Old Merc said:
I`ve been using Forte products for years and it does what it says on the tin.
I tried this in an old Sunbeam engine. Didn't seem to make any difference. frown