PCP payments on a new Cayman S
PCP payments on a new Cayman S
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mjw0321

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293 posts

155 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Hello all. I am currently researching the options for my next car which I will purchase in the new year. I have a few options on my list and want to get an idea of the affordability of a new cayman s specced to around £61k. I will have around a £7k deposit, and the maximum I want to spend per month is £650 on a 10k a year deal. Having played about on the porsche site, I think I am way off as it was giving figures of around £850-£900 a month, however I would value your opinions/experiences.

sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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mjw0321 said:
Hello all. I am currently researching the options for my next car which I will purchase in the new year. I have a few options on my list and want to get an idea of the affordability of a new cayman s specced to around £61k. I will have around a £7k deposit, and the maximum I want to spend per month is £650 on a 10k a year deal. Having played about on the porsche site, I think I am way off as it was giving figures of around £850-£900 a month, however I would value your opinions/experiences.
Seems highly optimistic!

Assuming £61k car, £7k deposit and £30,500 residual / balloon (50%, which is optimistic) and 8% APR gives a monthly premium of around £930.


Nano2nd

3,426 posts

285 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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sidicks said:
Seems highly optimistic!

Assuming £61k car, £7k deposit and £30,500 residual / balloon (50%, which is optimistic) and 8% APR gives a monthly premium of around £930.
The residual will be around 50% of the base car without options! I would push hard for a discount and finance elsewhere. You might get closer smile Jamie at performance car finance gave me some decent rates and seem well known on the internet forums

mjw0321

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293 posts

155 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Yeah, think I am probably way out, however people seem to be paying around £650 a month for new bmw M5s at around £75k. I appreciate that they tend to get £10k discounts, but the M5 is a hell of a lot of car for that sort of money, so I thought there me be a chance that in reality a cayman s would be cheaper than the website suggests. I guess people buying a cayman s new tend to put down much larger deposits or buy outright, as around £1000 a month seems a hell of a lot for a £60k car considering the current market and deals around on other manufactures.

JEA1K

2,747 posts

252 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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mjw0321 said:
Yeah, think I am probably way out, however people seem to be paying around £650 a month for new bmw M5s at around £75k. I appreciate that they tend to get £10k discounts, but the M5 is a hell of a lot of car for that sort of money, so I thought there me be a chance that in reality a cayman s would be cheaper than the website suggests. I guess people buying a cayman s new tend to put down much larger deposits or buy outright, as around £1000 a month seems a hell of a lot for a £60k car considering the current market and deals around on other manufactures.
Your not comparing apples with apples!

M5's, C63's and E63's are being offered at highly discounted prices by dealers with super low APR's so they're absolute bargains at £499 - £600 per month. I doubt Porsche will ever provide that type of discount because their sales volumes are less than BMW and Merc.

Newc

2,191 posts

211 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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The M5's are that rate because BMW can't shift them at full 95k retail, but don't want to discount the list price. Porsche can shift enough Caymans at 50k-60k that they don't need to discount particularly.

If you want a performance car at a discount, get an M5 / C63 while the deals last. If you want a Cayman, you'll have to pay the price of entry.

mjw0321

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293 posts

155 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Newc said:
The M5's are that rate because BMW can't shift them at full 95k retail, but don't want to discount the list price. Porsche can shift enough Caymans at 50k-60k that they don't need to discount particularly.

If you want a performance car at a discount, get an M5 / C63 while the deals last. If you want a Cayman, you'll have to pay the price of entry.
I suspected this was the case. Thanks for the advice.

Chins

138 posts

199 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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As long as I don't die in my sleep I will probably secure my Cayman S tomorrow.

Your numbers look very high.

What discount have you secured?
What APR are they quoting?
What term are you trying to do the PCP over?
Mileage?


sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Nano2nd said:

The residual will be around 50% of the base car without options!
Yes - I just did a very simple calculation and emphasized it was optimistic!

mjw0321

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293 posts

155 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Chins said:
As long as I don't die in my sleep I will probably secure my Cayman S tomorrow.

Your numbers look very high.

What discount have you secured?
What APR are they quoting?
What term are you trying to do the PCP over?
Mileage?
Was this directed at me? I had a play with the porsche configurer and when I specced the cayman s to around £61k with 10k mile a year limit over 3 years with a £7k deposit it was something like £850 a month.

Do you mind giving an idea of the deal you are looking to secure tomorrow?

Chins

138 posts

199 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Hopefully you will get an email from me.

Ady128

537 posts

172 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Don't do it! Have a few years of saving and driving a boring car and buy the thing with cash! I did.

mjw0321

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293 posts

155 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Ady128 said:
Don't do it! Have a few years of saving and driving a boring car and buy the thing with cash! I did.
I don't want to wait years driving a boring car when I can afford a good one now and I am happy paying on finance. If I cant afford the porsche I will go for an M5 or a c63 or XFR so either way I will get something nice within the next few months. I studied hard and work hard and cars are a personal passion, and one I want to enjoy sooner rather than later.

PowerMalc

222 posts

173 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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A standard Cayman S on a 36 month and 10k miles is £650pm with a £7k deposit.
The residual is £28204 no matter the spec. The only thing that will increase this is the PDK box, goes up about £1700. PDK makes the monthly £669pm
You want to add £12000 worth of options, you have to pay all of this in your monthly.
Porsche's APR on a PCP is very high, as others have said there different finance houses to investigate

Younez

1,057 posts

195 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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mjw0321 said:
Ady128 said:
Don't do it! Have a few years of saving and driving a boring car and buy the thing with cash! I did.
I don't want to wait years driving a boring car when I can afford a good one now and I am happy paying on finance. If I cant afford the porsche I will go for an M5 or a c63 or XFR so either way I will get something nice within the next few months. I studied hard and work hard and cars are a personal passion, and one I want to enjoy sooner rather than later.
Are you a student?

mjw0321

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293 posts

155 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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PowerMalc said:
A standard Cayman S on a 36 month and 10k miles is £650pm with a £7k deposit.
The residual is £28204 no matter the spec. The only thing that will increase this is the PDK box, goes up about £1700. PDK makes the monthly £669pm
You want to add £12000 worth of options, you have to pay all of this in your monthly.
Porsche's APR on a PCP is very high, as others have said there different finance houses to investigate
Thanks for the info

mjw0321

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293 posts

155 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Younez said:
Are you a student?
No, however I spent a long time at university to get me into the job I now have which allows me to earn enough to afford a nice car. I am in my 20's though.

Chins

138 posts

199 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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PowerMalc said:
A standard Cayman S on a 36 month and 10k miles is £650pm with a £7k deposit.
The residual is £28204 no matter the spec. The only thing that will increase this is the PDK box, goes up about £1700. PDK makes the monthly £669pm
You want to add £12000 worth of options, you have to pay all of this in your monthly.
Porsche's APR on a PCP is very high, as others have said there different finance houses to investigate
Are you going to suggest a nice red Boxster smile

The APR is wrong on the Porsche site - they are running the same promotion this quarter they did on the Boxster last month. So an APR of 7.5% and a £1000 from Porsche (not out of dealer margin), plus any discount you can get. If you can match PowerMalc's Boxster discount it will see the £669 tumble smile



PowerMalc

222 posts

173 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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Ha Ha A red Cayman would look nice clap

Not sure you could get as good a discount on the Cayman as a Boxster.
So Porsche put £1000 towards the deposit and a lower APR and if the resdiual stays the same that makes a new Cayman a very good deal on a PCP.
Any discount will also reduce the monthly and not effect the residual.

Chins

138 posts

199 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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I don't think you will match your discount, but with the end of the year coming and a few Caymans built and ready to sell they are there. You will however need to take the car this quarter. Apparently dealers in Northants are doing so well they are tight on discounts smile

Edited by Chins on Monday 14th October 23:31