PIE.. Recipe ideas needed.
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A short story.. With some help needed.
I am an Englishman living in USA with quite a few expat friends, who all love to cook and regularly challenge each other to a cook off. Prizes, bragging rights and a tremendous amount of boasting ensues.
We have come full circle with our different dishes throughout the year.. it's PIE NIGHT again.

I managed to scrape the win last year with a Steak, Port and Stilton creation which took 2 days to prepare and make. It was a recipe from the Windmill pub in London. http://www.windmillmayfair.co.uk
I now need to plan a new project, some of the British Pie ingredients are difficult to come by here in US, so planning and shipping might be needed in advance..
Please recommend me Pie's, ingredients, links to recipes or your Grandma's secret dish.
There are a few simple rules:
a) The dish must include the word “pie” in it
b) It can be meaty, veggie or fruity but must include some form of “crust” or topping
c) It has to be somewhat English in origin
I am an Englishman living in USA with quite a few expat friends, who all love to cook and regularly challenge each other to a cook off. Prizes, bragging rights and a tremendous amount of boasting ensues.
We have come full circle with our different dishes throughout the year.. it's PIE NIGHT again.
I managed to scrape the win last year with a Steak, Port and Stilton creation which took 2 days to prepare and make. It was a recipe from the Windmill pub in London. http://www.windmillmayfair.co.uk
I now need to plan a new project, some of the British Pie ingredients are difficult to come by here in US, so planning and shipping might be needed in advance..
Please recommend me Pie's, ingredients, links to recipes or your Grandma's secret dish.
There are a few simple rules:
a) The dish must include the word “pie” in it
b) It can be meaty, veggie or fruity but must include some form of “crust” or topping
c) It has to be somewhat English in origin
Heston Blumenthal's chicken and ham pie:
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/heston...
Follow the recipe to the letter to wring out every last molecule of flavour. Obviously the results will be best with absolutely top-quality free range chicken.
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/heston...
Follow the recipe to the letter to wring out every last molecule of flavour. Obviously the results will be best with absolutely top-quality free range chicken.
Mobile Chicane said:
Heston Blumenthal's chicken and ham pie:
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/heston...
Follow the recipe to the letter to wring out every last molecule of flavour. Obviously the results will be best with absolutely top-quality free range chicken.
That sounded sooo good...until I read it was not a proper pie and only a casserole with a lid http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/heston...
Follow the recipe to the letter to wring out every last molecule of flavour. Obviously the results will be best with absolutely top-quality free range chicken.

One of Jamie Oliver's. fish pie I normally make one a week.
http://www.jamieoliver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=...
http://www.jamieoliver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=...
Search out a recipe for Fidgets Pie. Delicious and very English!
Here's one;
http://www.goodtoknow.co.uk/recipes/317565/Hairy-B...
Here's one;
http://www.goodtoknow.co.uk/recipes/317565/Hairy-B...
Good ideas - keep them coming.....
At the moment, I'm thinking of a Lamb Shank pie.. Slow braised for several hours, boned and diced/flaked, in a red wine, rosemary and thyme sauce.. thickened with the juice from the lamb..
Accompanied by a fresh minted gravy, puréed with the remaining meat juices from a deglazed pan.
Lamb is quite rare in the US, rather expensive and in this area mostly reserved for Indian cuisine.
Alternatives to the Shank could be a full shoulder, roasted and diced.
Opinions..? I'm salivating already. This is my own creation, not found a recipe for this apart from Aussie type lamb pies, which don't seem to have the same attraction.
At the moment, I'm thinking of a Lamb Shank pie.. Slow braised for several hours, boned and diced/flaked, in a red wine, rosemary and thyme sauce.. thickened with the juice from the lamb..
Accompanied by a fresh minted gravy, puréed with the remaining meat juices from a deglazed pan.
Lamb is quite rare in the US, rather expensive and in this area mostly reserved for Indian cuisine.
Alternatives to the Shank could be a full shoulder, roasted and diced.
Opinions..? I'm salivating already. This is my own creation, not found a recipe for this apart from Aussie type lamb pies, which don't seem to have the same attraction.
Made a couple of these for Boxing Day family lunch last Christmas, really easy but incredibly tasty
http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/turkey-recipes/...
http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/turkey-recipes/...
bridgdav said:
Alternatives to the Shank could be a full shoulder, roasted and diced.
Opinions..? I'm salivating already. This is my own creation, not found a recipe for this apart from Aussie type lamb pies, which don't seem to have the same attraction.
Basically, a Shepherd's Pie then? Opinions..? I'm salivating already. This is my own creation, not found a recipe for this apart from Aussie type lamb pies, which don't seem to have the same attraction.

I must confess that I find lamb shanks overrated. I don't think the meat itself has much flavour. Roasted shoulder on the other hand...

Whatever you do, follow Heston's advice about thickening the gravy with agar flakes. These will be your secret flavour weapon.
How about a massive hot water crust pork pie? Doesn't get much more English than that!
I always use this recipe now: http://helengraves.co.uk/2009/12/a-very-porky-pie/
but I have also used Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's recipe too: http://www.them-apples.co.uk/2009/06/how-to-make-p...
I always use this recipe now: http://helengraves.co.uk/2009/12/a-very-porky-pie/
but I have also used Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's recipe too: http://www.them-apples.co.uk/2009/06/how-to-make-p...
Kate and Will's wedding pie. Nothing more British, nothing more savoury!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajvh6HFXqcU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajvh6HFXqcU
PedroB said:
How about a massive hot water crust pork pie? Doesn't get much more English than that!
I always use this recipe now: http://helengraves.co.uk/2009/12/a-very-porky-pie/
but I have also used Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's recipe too: http://www.them-apples.co.uk/2009/06/how-to-make-p...
I always use this recipe now: http://helengraves.co.uk/2009/12/a-very-porky-pie/
but I have also used Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's recipe too: http://www.them-apples.co.uk/2009/06/how-to-make-p...
Tanguero said:
Traditional hot water crust raised pork pie. Doesn't come much more English than that. Good pork shoulder diced, make your own sausage meat to bind it with and top off with a white wine jelly, perfect!
Yes - good idea - I would never have thought of that... ;-)Tanguero said:
PedroB said:
How about a massive hot water crust pork pie? Doesn't get much more English than that!
I always use this recipe now: http://helengraves.co.uk/2009/12/a-very-porky-pie/
but I have also used Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's recipe too: http://www.them-apples.co.uk/2009/06/how-to-make-p...
I always use this recipe now: http://helengraves.co.uk/2009/12/a-very-porky-pie/
but I have also used Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's recipe too: http://www.them-apples.co.uk/2009/06/how-to-make-p...
Tanguero said:
Traditional hot water crust raised pork pie. Doesn't come much more English than that. Good pork shoulder diced, make your own sausage meat to bind it with and top off with a white wine jelly, perfect!
Yes - good idea - I would never have thought of that... ;-)Cheese, onion and beans pie. If they're expats it's got to be a winner for sheer novelty. Make sure you import proper baked beans, not those weird, overly sweet molasses-laden things you get stateside. English cheddar too. I know it's wallet rapingly expensive out there but it's worth it.
Delia and a rabbit
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/pi...
No chance of this rabbit being dry and I guess in the US they may never of had it?
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/pi...
No chance of this rabbit being dry and I guess in the US they may never of had it?
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