Tyre choice for Wet track
Discussion
At what point is it better to be on road tyres for a wet track?
I know standing water means my Yoko 048s will not work, and that a bit of damp means they will still be the better choice but where is the crossover?
ie Should the road tyres get the nod as soon as it's just a bit more than damp, or not until it's a lot more than just wet?
I know standing water means my Yoko 048s will not work, and that a bit of damp means they will still be the better choice but where is the crossover?
ie Should the road tyres get the nod as soon as it's just a bit more than damp, or not until it's a lot more than just wet?
951 said:
At what point is it better to be on road tyres for a wet track?
I know standing water means my Yoko 048s will not work, and that a bit of damp means they will still be the better choice but where is the crossover?
ie Should the road tyres get the nod as soon as it's just a bit more than damp, or not until it's a lot more than just wet?
The 'crossover' will be temperature dependent. Your 048s could cope with a damp track if the ambient/track temp was high enough (mid summer) to allow you to get heat into the tyres, but in autumn/winter they would be pretty near useless in the same degree of track dampness. I'll use my Eagle F1s if its both cold and damp - the tread blocks move around a lot more so it's much easier to heat into the tyres, and the tread pattern squeezes the water/dampness away. Hence much better grip. My Trofeos are awesome when they are up to temp, but pretty dire when they are cold.I know standing water means my Yoko 048s will not work, and that a bit of damp means they will still be the better choice but where is the crossover?
ie Should the road tyres get the nod as soon as it's just a bit more than damp, or not until it's a lot more than just wet?
You won't believe me but honestly, toyo 888's are fantastic in the wet, I was lapping Knockhill in torrential conditions, standing water everywhere in 63 seconds, 4 seconds faster than the closest car on road tyres with 4wd.
I'll put up a video tonight on YouTube and show how wet it was.
I've no experience of yokos in the wet.
The problem with road tyres are the hard compounds, you won't be able to put the power down and brake as hard as a softer tyre like the toyo, you may clear slightly more standing water but it will slide more in the corners when you need the grip.
G
I'll put up a video tonight on YouTube and show how wet it was.
I've no experience of yokos in the wet.
The problem with road tyres are the hard compounds, you won't be able to put the power down and brake as hard as a softer tyre like the toyo, you may clear slightly more standing water but it will slide more in the corners when you need the grip.
G
I'm guessing you wouldn't want to try that in winter, Graham!!
Most occasional track day drivers won't be driving on the limit when it's both damp and cold and so in those conditions are probably better off using road tyres which will inspire more confidence and be safer (especially when it's cold).
Most occasional track day drivers won't be driving on the limit when it's both damp and cold and so in those conditions are probably better off using road tyres which will inspire more confidence and be safer (especially when it's cold).
my yoko 048's and Michelin cups are horrible in cold and wet weather... managed to get a little heat into them at spa in zero conditions but didnt inspire any confidence at all... went out with young hollowpockets on same day and he was leaning on them loads more than i was prepared to... but then he is nuts lol
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