Two teenagers die in deer crash car fire on A10 in Ware
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I've never hit one, but have come round a bend on a country lane to find one standing in the road. And it was pretty dam big. Apparently, this is the time of the year when the stags are feeling frisky, and are on the look out for a girl friend, and forget their traffic sense.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
Been there, twice, not fun
First a full blown stag just past the Cluanie about 10.30. Ran into my side, bounced off the bonnet. I can still "see" the face in the windscreen yet and that was 8 year go. New bonnet, wing, light, repaired front valance.
Second Roe deer ran into front wing of Volvo estate, ran off and never left insurance details.
West coast of Scotland is terrible at this time of year.
First a full blown stag just past the Cluanie about 10.30. Ran into my side, bounced off the bonnet. I can still "see" the face in the windscreen yet and that was 8 year go. New bonnet, wing, light, repaired front valance.
Second Roe deer ran into front wing of Volvo estate, ran off and never left insurance details.
West coast of Scotland is terrible at this time of year.
The leg injuries described in the article for the other driver were actually burns from the burning car whilst he was trying to rescue the girls out of the car. Apparently other witnesses had to pull him back from the burning wreck. Can't imagine what he must be going through.
Sounds just awful.
Thankfully, my road kill tally stands at a pigeon, a pheasant and a rat. I did have about as near miss as could be with 2 deer though. Thankfully managed to swerve between the two of them as they ran out into the road. Had something been coming the other way or the deer were just a foot or two closer together, it would not have been a pretty scene.
Sounds just awful.
Thankfully, my road kill tally stands at a pigeon, a pheasant and a rat. I did have about as near miss as could be with 2 deer though. Thankfully managed to swerve between the two of them as they ran out into the road. Had something been coming the other way or the deer were just a foot or two closer together, it would not have been a pretty scene.
Boydie88 said:
The leg injuries described in the article for the other driver were actually burns from the burning car whilst he was trying to rescue the girls out of the car. Apparently other witnesses had to pull him back from the burning wreck. Can't imagine what he must be going through.
Sounds just awful.
Agreed, gotta feel for the kid. How to do you cope after something like that? Sounds just awful.
I've hit my fair share of fluffy things but biggest was a badger. I was on a motorbike at the time, managed to just about lift the front wheel and kind of hop over (on) it.
There were lot of deer (and Deere's) where I worked in the US (most of the Mid West) We went on a safety meeting at the start of the season and they said that (assuming you hadn't seen it early enough) it was cheaper to brake hard and hit it if you had to than swerve to miss it. The insurance claims were have for hits than for swerves.
One lad managed to miss one with the truck he was driving but it jumped between the back of the truk and the pup trailer it was pulling which hit it. Good work.
One lad managed to miss one with the truck he was driving but it jumped between the back of the truk and the pup trailer it was pulling which hit it. Good work.
One morning i missed a deer by inches as i had the sun in my eyes and i was trying to see where i was going, i was doing about 40 on a long straight bit of NSL road and i could just see out of the corner or my right eye the deer running off to the right. So he (she) passed through my vision without me really noticing him (her) and i missed by inches. I was lucky.
My only other run in with a deer was when i hit one, but it was funny. I was barreling along an NSL road at about 3am coming back from going to the supermarket, and i could see in the bushes on the right hand side a pair of eyes low to the ground, so i started slowing down a little. As i slowed down the yes wondered out into the road and my headlights lit up a tiny little baby deer. as he wondered closer and closer to my lane i started braking harder and harder eventually at a relatively low speed he went below my bonnet line and all i heard was a little thud and then again he wondered along the road infront of me. There happened to be a layby about 5 meters ahead of where i came to a halt and both the deer and me went into the layby so i got out and had a look for damage (there was none) and just found a few hairs. All the while the deer was standing about 2 meters away looking at me. Weirdo!
My only other run in with a deer was when i hit one, but it was funny. I was barreling along an NSL road at about 3am coming back from going to the supermarket, and i could see in the bushes on the right hand side a pair of eyes low to the ground, so i started slowing down a little. As i slowed down the yes wondered out into the road and my headlights lit up a tiny little baby deer. as he wondered closer and closer to my lane i started braking harder and harder eventually at a relatively low speed he went below my bonnet line and all i heard was a little thud and then again he wondered along the road infront of me. There happened to be a layby about 5 meters ahead of where i came to a halt and both the deer and me went into the layby so i got out and had a look for damage (there was none) and just found a few hairs. All the while the deer was standing about 2 meters away looking at me. Weirdo!
Boydie88 said:
The leg injuries described in the article for the other driver were actually burns from the burning car whilst he was trying to rescue the girls out of the car. Apparently other witnesses had to pull him back from the burning wreck. Can't imagine what he must be going through.
I've had a very lucky escape 4 years ago on the A82. Stag landed on bonnet, came round and head came in the rear window. The antler gouged the headrest of my seat. What I found most frightening was that there was nothing I could do - didn't know I was going to hit a stag till it appeared on the bonnet.
Awful events, my eldest boy goes/went to college with one of the girls, but didn't know her.
There do seem to be more deer round these parts this year than ever before, and I've seen two cross the A10 in the last month or so.
Many years back up in rural Northumberland, our neighbour was killed by a fully grown male leaping a hedge and landing through the windscreen - they are bloody large animals.
Fortunately I've only ever hit a muntjac (loads round here) - but even that ripped the plastic and tubes underneath my 350Z to shreds.
There do seem to be more deer round these parts this year than ever before, and I've seen two cross the A10 in the last month or so.
Many years back up in rural Northumberland, our neighbour was killed by a fully grown male leaping a hedge and landing through the windscreen - they are bloody large animals.
Fortunately I've only ever hit a muntjac (loads round here) - but even that ripped the plastic and tubes underneath my 350Z to shreds.
A work mate hit a Deer on the A3 at 70mph. He was overtaking a Van on the outside lane, when said Van suddenly decreased its speed very rapidly. It was too late for him to do the same thing and the Deer hit him side on.
Difference was he was on a Motorbike, he was knocked out cold for a good 20mins and was lucky the following cars did not hit him. He ended up coming to a rest against the Armco.
He is now fully recovered after having 3 months off to heal up. His Helmet, Leathers and Bike all totally written off but also were the only thing(s) that saved his life.
Difference was he was on a Motorbike, he was knocked out cold for a good 20mins and was lucky the following cars did not hit him. He ended up coming to a rest against the Armco.
He is now fully recovered after having 3 months off to heal up. His Helmet, Leathers and Bike all totally written off but also were the only thing(s) that saved his life.
There's loads of political bulls
t concerning young drivers and controlling their use of cars.But how many young people casualties are caused by them being forced into small and therefore less crash resistant cars by ridiculous insurance premiums.If I had teenaged children I'd want them driving something like a big Merc saloon or estate just as I was driving a big heavy Triumph saloon at 17.While the insurance companies don't seem to take any account of the actual weight v power outputs.IE that doesn't mean putting them behind the wheel of a V8 AMG at 17.
t concerning young drivers and controlling their use of cars.But how many young people casualties are caused by them being forced into small and therefore less crash resistant cars by ridiculous insurance premiums.If I had teenaged children I'd want them driving something like a big Merc saloon or estate just as I was driving a big heavy Triumph saloon at 17.While the insurance companies don't seem to take any account of the actual weight v power outputs.IE that doesn't mean putting them behind the wheel of a V8 AMG at 17. carl_w said:
This is pretty local to me too. I know a deer is big (I've avoided a couple, including one that was lying twitching in carriageway on the old A120), but why would a Citroen C1 burst into flames? Some fault with the car?
Probably because it didn't just hit a deer it also hit a larger heavier Volvo causing resulting massive damage including fuel leakage etc etc.XJ Flyer said:
There's loads of political bullst concerning young drivers and controlling their use of cars.But how many young people casualties are caused by them being forced into small and therefore less crash resistant cars by ridiculous insurance premiums.If I had teenaged children I'd want them driving something like a big Merc saloon or estate just as I was driving a big heavy Triumph saloon at 17.While the insurance companies don't seem to take any account of the actual weight v power outputs.IE that doesn't mean putting them behind the wheel of a V8 AMG at 17.
I'm not sure the point you're making is really relevant to this topic to be honest. (although it is a good point).t concerning young drivers and controlling their use of cars.But how many young people casualties are caused by them being forced into small and therefore less crash resistant cars by ridiculous insurance premiums.If I had teenaged children I'd want them driving something like a big Merc saloon or estate just as I was driving a big heavy Triumph saloon at 17.While the insurance companies don't seem to take any account of the actual weight v power outputs.IE that doesn't mean putting them behind the wheel of a V8 AMG at 17. I hit a deer last year in the old Cayenne, for what seemed a glancing blow from which the bloody animal run off from, the cost to repair was a bit hefty. When I was 17 I hit a deer in my mums Corsa, new headlight and the wing pulled out and the deer didn't run far from that one.....
I'd not like to hit one square on and takes it's legs away having the body roll up the bonnet.
I'd not like to hit one square on and takes it's legs away having the body roll up the bonnet.
danjama said:
XJ Flyer said:
There's loads of political bullst concerning young drivers and controlling their use of cars.But how many young people casualties are caused by them being forced into small and therefore less crash resistant cars by ridiculous insurance premiums.If I had teenaged children I'd want them driving something like a big Merc saloon or estate just as I was driving a big heavy Triumph saloon at 17.While the insurance companies don't seem to take any account of the actual weight v power outputs.IE that doesn't mean putting them behind the wheel of a V8 AMG at 17.
I'm not sure the point you're making is really relevant to this topic to be honest. (although it is a good point).t concerning young drivers and controlling their use of cars.But how many young people casualties are caused by them being forced into small and therefore less crash resistant cars by ridiculous insurance premiums.If I had teenaged children I'd want them driving something like a big Merc saloon or estate just as I was driving a big heavy Triumph saloon at 17.While the insurance companies don't seem to take any account of the actual weight v power outputs.IE that doesn't mean putting them behind the wheel of a V8 AMG at 17. XJ Flyer said:
danjama said:
XJ Flyer said:
There's loads of political bullst concerning young drivers and controlling their use of cars.But how many young people casualties are caused by them being forced into small and therefore less crash resistant cars by ridiculous insurance premiums.If I had teenaged children I'd want them driving something like a big Merc saloon or estate just as I was driving a big heavy Triumph saloon at 17.While the insurance companies don't seem to take any account of the actual weight v power outputs.IE that doesn't mean putting them behind the wheel of a V8 AMG at 17.
I'm not sure the point you're making is really relevant to this topic to be honest. (although it is a good point).t concerning young drivers and controlling their use of cars.But how many young people casualties are caused by them being forced into small and therefore less crash resistant cars by ridiculous insurance premiums.If I had teenaged children I'd want them driving something like a big Merc saloon or estate just as I was driving a big heavy Triumph saloon at 17.While the insurance companies don't seem to take any account of the actual weight v power outputs.IE that doesn't mean putting them behind the wheel of a V8 AMG at 17. The C1 is a city car, designed to drive at 30-40mph in the city and rarely if ever to venture into the wild as it were.
I swear my kids will be driving a range rover or equivalent and I'll happily take another 4 or 5 jobs to fund the insurance premium, such a shame to hear stories like this especially when they're avoidable...
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