Cayenne on 21's + snow - asking for trouble?
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After a bit of advice please as winter is fast approaching!
I appreciate the general merits of snow tyres but wanted to know if I stuck to the "standard" Pirelli PZero N1's (295/35/21) on my 958 Cayenne will I be heading for trouble. I certainly wont be wanting to off-road but didn't want to find my car becomes next to useless when we get the inevitable snow.
If anyone has experience of running these tyres over winter it would be much appreciated!
Cheers,
Noman
I appreciate the general merits of snow tyres but wanted to know if I stuck to the "standard" Pirelli PZero N1's (295/35/21) on my 958 Cayenne will I be heading for trouble. I certainly wont be wanting to off-road but didn't want to find my car becomes next to useless when we get the inevitable snow.
If anyone has experience of running these tyres over winter it would be much appreciated!
Cheers,
Noman
Here's the big thing IMO.
You'll get by when it comes to getting up snowy hills, there'll be a lot if wheels spin and some sliding etc, but they'll cope pretty much 'OK'
BUT it's under braking and especially going down hill when things can get VERY scary. It's very easy to lock all 4 wheels, abs won't even trigger a lot of the time as all 4 wheels can lock up very easily.
You could be ok, but things CAN get scary pretty quickly.
I run an X6 on 20" and have driven to the alps quite a bit over the years, wouldn't consider it without winter tyres now.
G.
You'll get by when it comes to getting up snowy hills, there'll be a lot if wheels spin and some sliding etc, but they'll cope pretty much 'OK'
BUT it's under braking and especially going down hill when things can get VERY scary. It's very easy to lock all 4 wheels, abs won't even trigger a lot of the time as all 4 wheels can lock up very easily.
You could be ok, but things CAN get scary pretty quickly.
I run an X6 on 20" and have driven to the alps quite a bit over the years, wouldn't consider it without winter tyres now.
G.
I live in cumbria and have a set of 20"s with michelin latitudes and a set of 18"s with michelin all season...i wouldn't be without my all seasons in winter.
when i was speccing the car i went to the experience centre at silverstone and was talking to a couple of the instructors about suspension and wheel sizes. They said as soon as there was a dusting on the (flat) car park the cayenne's on the 21"s wouldn't go anywhere.....so when the weather gets bad they use the cars with the all season/winters. hope this helps.
when i was speccing the car i went to the experience centre at silverstone and was talking to a couple of the instructors about suspension and wheel sizes. They said as soon as there was a dusting on the (flat) car park the cayenne's on the 21"s wouldn't go anywhere.....so when the weather gets bad they use the cars with the all season/winters. hope this helps.
At the end of the day it comes down to how inconvenienced you want to be when the conditions "might" turn bad ? I now run winter tyres on both my cars during the winter months as there are inevitable times when i would and cannot afford to get stuck, regardless of 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive or 2 wheel drive for that matter....4x4 rally cars dont use big wheels and tarmac tyres for ice and snow stages..
whilst you will probably get where you are going on 21's the difference between summer tyres and winter tyres when the going gets tough really is night and day..
whilst you will probably get where you are going on 21's the difference between summer tyres and winter tyres when the going gets tough really is night and day..
We get a LOT of snow. My neighbour's cayenne on 21" summers can't even get up his own drive. My x5 on 18" winters is unstoppable - my 911 on 19" winters isn't far behind and outperforms the local Rangies on summers, to my considerable entertainment. On anything up to the 20" wheels, all weather tyres are nco on the cayenne - no personal experience of those though but it suspect they'd be a very good all year compromise.
996TT_STEVO said:
You will find ANY 4x4 will struggle… it's all about the Rubber
I drive a Nissan patrol 4x4 1996 version and it is blinding in the snow. Never ever had a problem even in deep snow or iced roads. I have road summer tyres on her normally, just put something a little more extreme on a couple of weeks ago. Just to add I live on an very, very steep road, great fun seeing cars and most jeeps alike trying to get up my road when it snows. Last year I was out helping the local police to move cars out of the main roads. Great fun.
4x4 all the way!
Moosh said:
I drive a Nissan patrol 4x4 1996 version and it is blinding in the snow. Never ever had a problem even in deep snow or iced roads. I have road summer tyres on her normally, just put something a little more extreme on a couple of weeks ago. Just to add I live on an very, very steep road, great fun seeing cars and most jeeps alike trying to get up my road when it snows.
Last year I was out helping the local police to move cars out of the main roads. Great fun.
4x4 all the way!
Don't know if you picked my post up wrong?… I never said anything against 4x4's… I said it was all about the tyres (Summer tyre, Winter tyre)Last year I was out helping the local police to move cars out of the main roads. Great fun.
4x4 all the way!
Indeed. My Discovery 4 runs Wintrac Extremes in the winter on 20" OEM alloys. The Disco is obviously 4wd (and has a bunch of off-road this and that) and that helps *somewhat* in the snow, but it doesn't make any difference at all to its braking/stopping ability, particularly as these things are heavy. Cayenne's not going to be any different. If you really need to get up hills in the snow and stop, or just feel safer, I'd take a 2wd on winters over my Disco 4 (or any 4wd) on regular tyres...But I'd take 4wd and winters as the best option...:-)
t in snow without proper tyresnomank said:
Done! Finally got myself a set of Porsche Cayenne S alloys (18inchers) with some N rated Dunlop WinterSport's on! Will keep you posted as to how they get on...
You will have fun. Does your car have PASM/air? If not, you may be pleasantly surprised at the change in ride quality.Holy Thread Resurrection :-)
I've got a Cayenne on 21" 295/35 R21 wheels
we live in the north of England and are driving to the French Alps in February and maybe again at Easter so I reckon at some point over the next few months I'm going to encounter some snow somewhere
looks like I can get a set of Winter tyres for my 21" wheels for about £1000. Or I can get a set of official Porsche 18" or 19" wheels with Winter tyres for about £2500 to £3000
my local tyre shop will change the tyres for me, or fit the winter wheels if I go that route, so no issue either way there
anyone got any experience of whether I'm better to get the smaller wheel set or if the 21" winter tyres will be ok? I don't want to spend £2500/£3000 unless I have to, but equally I don't want to spend £1000 on 21" tyres and find they are useless and I end up wasting that cash and buying another wheel set anyway......
if it makes a difference, Porsche tell me it isn't possible to get N rated 21" winter tyres. my car is under warranty with them so I'm breaking the warranty terms if I go for 21" tyres. 18 or 19" wheel set would come with N rated tyres.
I've got a Cayenne on 21" 295/35 R21 wheels
we live in the north of England and are driving to the French Alps in February and maybe again at Easter so I reckon at some point over the next few months I'm going to encounter some snow somewhere
looks like I can get a set of Winter tyres for my 21" wheels for about £1000. Or I can get a set of official Porsche 18" or 19" wheels with Winter tyres for about £2500 to £3000
my local tyre shop will change the tyres for me, or fit the winter wheels if I go that route, so no issue either way there
anyone got any experience of whether I'm better to get the smaller wheel set or if the 21" winter tyres will be ok? I don't want to spend £2500/£3000 unless I have to, but equally I don't want to spend £1000 on 21" tyres and find they are useless and I end up wasting that cash and buying another wheel set anyway......
if it makes a difference, Porsche tell me it isn't possible to get N rated 21" winter tyres. my car is under warranty with them so I'm breaking the warranty terms if I go for 21" tyres. 18 or 19" wheel set would come with N rated tyres.
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