Intelligent headlight system
Intelligent headlight system
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tvron

Original Poster:

276 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Looking for low mileage secondhand ML350 and wondered if it is worth finding one with Bi xenon intelligent light system or if standard lights ok-live in country lanes and travel early morning-used to xenons on Jag at moment

ghibbett

1,908 posts

209 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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I have the ILS system on my C-Class and think it's superb. If I lived out in the sticks it would be a must have for me, mainly for the fact that they turn with the wheels. Without doubt they're the best Xenon lights I've ever had in a car.

rassi

2,514 posts

275 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Xenon is a must-have option for me, makes driving in low-light situations so much more relaxed.

In fact, it is always the first option I look for in any new car.

Seventy

5,500 posts

162 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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I'll never have a car without xenons[or led's] again.

Aeroresh

1,429 posts

256 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Theres little thats intelligent imo, well there is on the sytem fitted to my e class anyway.

I live out in the sticks so thought it would be a godsend but main beam wont kick in at low speeds so no good for tight windy lanes and then when the road does unwind its pretty stubborn to turn main beam off for oncoming cars and catching up traffic to the point where it winds other drivers up. The actual light is brilliant its the active side thats dimwhitted. Id rate it at 4/10. Good in principal but in practise.............

Stick to bixenons only if possible but the intelligent bit is an oxymoron!

Nick644

241 posts

291 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Aeroresh said:
Theres little thats intelligent imo, well there is on the sytem fitted to my e class anyway.

I live out in the sticks so thought it would be a godsend but main beam wont kick in at low speeds so no good for tight windy lanes and then when the road does unwind its pretty stubborn to turn main beam off for oncoming cars and catching up traffic to the point where it winds other drivers up. The actual light is brilliant its the active side thats dimwhitted. Id rate it at 4/10. Good in principal but in practise.............

Stick to bixenons only if possible but the intelligent bit is an oxymoron!
I have it on my C350cdi. Its great, but tends to work better on motorways/dual carriageways without much oncoming traffic. On windy lanes, if the lights reflect off any surfaces, it does automatically switch off the main beam. With this sort of driving it has to be manually overridden, which is quite simple to activate. The lights do turn with the direction of steering wheel inputs, which give great visibility.

tonys

1,080 posts

247 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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The actual lights are excellent, but the way that cars are becoming more 'automated' is infuriating. I much prefer the old MB setup which allowed the driver to decide whether he wanted 'auto' lights, but the new ones no longer offer that facility, they're either on or 'auto'. I find that I sometimes have to pre-empt the car and turn on the 'parking' lights just to stop the headlights switching on when I don't want them on.

I do find the auto-dip function a bit slow to dip at times, so switch to manual to override the auto main/dip function, which seems to defeat the point of them. But then, I also switch off many of the other auto functions wink

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 18th October 2013
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I love the lights on mine, but I suspect that any drivers coming the other way are rather less keen.

51mes

1,545 posts

224 months

Friday 18th October 2013
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Have a set on my ML, they totally even on dipped beam turn night into day. I'm sure other drivers are less keen than I am with them, and this is on low beam. The High Beam assist is a bit slow in dropping them and also gets confused by reflective surfaces (rather like the comedy skit of a primitive looking into a mirror for the first time ever).

You can turn lots of the nanny functions off in the menu (2012 car) and I do that mostly - of course if you don't have command most of them are gone anyway (I do but I wanted the reversing camera for hooking up the towbar).

What I do find is the menu option for left-side/right-side traffic seems to move something (you can see it happen when the lights are shining at the wall, but has bu**er all effect on the full spread light output.

Jem0911

4,415 posts

225 months

Friday 18th October 2013
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I have the system on my C class and will spec it on my next Mercedes without a doubt.
Test driving the E class next week ready to order.

GTIR

24,741 posts

290 months

Saturday 19th October 2013
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The directional bi-xenons lights are ace but the auto dip is just a flawed gimmick.

Turns itself off from reflections from windows or street signs. Doesn't detect trucks until it's too late, can't see cyclists, can't see cars with just sidelights on, dimwitted and annoying!
If it's on you'd expect it to take over but you need to override it so best not to use it IMO.

Same as that silly ECO function - another sales gimmick.


tonys

1,080 posts

247 months

Saturday 19th October 2013
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GTIR said:
The directional bi-xenons lights are ace but the auto dip is just a flawed gimmick.

Turns itself off from reflections from windows or street signs. Doesn't detect trucks until it's too late, can't see cyclists, can't see cars with just sidelights on, dimwitted and annoying!
If it's on you'd expect it to take over but you need to override it so best not to use it IMO.

Same as that silly ECO function - another sales gimmick.
Agree, although I'd point the silly ECO stop-start issue/blame towards the EU bureaucrats rather than a sales gimmick. Just a means to reduce the daft Co2 figures. If only it didn't default to 'on' everytime, unless someone knows how to turn it off permanently.

GTIR

24,741 posts

290 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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tonys said:
GTIR said:
The directional bi-xenons lights are ace but the auto dip is just a flawed gimmick.

Turns itself off from reflections from windows or street signs. Doesn't detect trucks until it's too late, can't see cyclists, can't see cars with just sidelights on, dimwitted and annoying!
If it's on you'd expect it to take over but you need to override it so best not to use it IMO.

Same as that silly ECO function - another sales gimmick.
Agree, although I'd point the silly ECO stop-start issue/blame towards the EU bureaucrats rather than a sales gimmick. Just a means to reduce the daft Co2 figures. If only it didn't default to 'on' everytime, unless someone knows how to turn it off permanently.
If I know I'm going to be sitting at lights/traffic for a while I'll use it.

I'm a bit concerned about the extra wear on the starter motor especially the amount if miles I do. I guess it'll fail before three years are up and if that's all that fails I'll be happy!

Jem0911

4,415 posts

225 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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GTIR said:
If I know I'm going to be sitting at lights/traffic for a while I'll use it.

I'm a bit concerned about the extra wear on the starter motor especially the amount if miles I do. I guess it'll fail before three years are up and if that's all that fails I'll be happy!
How many Miles are you doing?
I'm on 35k plus a year and the stop start still going well.

GTIR

24,741 posts

290 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Jem0911 said:
GTIR said:
If I know I'm going to be sitting at lights/traffic for a while I'll use it.

I'm a bit concerned about the extra wear on the starter motor especially the amount if miles I do. I guess it'll fail before three years are up and if that's all that fails I'll be happy!
How many Miles are you doing?
I'm on 35k plus a year and the stop start still going well.
80k a year.

It's not the stopping bit I worry about...

tvron

Original Poster:

276 posts

272 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Bought ML with ILS very good but worried that dipped is too high and blinding oncoming drivers and cars I follow-booked into Merc next week for checking
Anyone had much luck with resetting ?

matty200

17 posts

177 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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tvron said:
Bought ML with ILS very good but worried that dipped is too high and blinding oncoming drivers and cars I follow-booked into Merc next week for checking
Anyone had much luck with resetting ?
Yes, mine was exactly the same. On dipped, I was blinding oncoming traffic and also full beam was lighting tree tops rather than the road, so asked local dealer to lower them and now they're sorted. No more flashers!

steveflatt

20 posts

231 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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I'm a little late with this but my 50pence worth I have CL 600 with plain xenons and a ml 350 with int light system no comparison ils much much beter mine was acting as a search light but dealer sorted it fine in also have an old ml 350 with normal lights it's like having two candles on front of car would not consider another car without them
Cheers
Steve

tvron

Original Poster:

276 posts

272 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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smile
Now sorted by helpful Waterhouse of Chelmsford -took just 15 minutes
Lights now very good especially on dark wet mornings-still use manual dip most of time-not sure about auto dip on country roads -fine on main roads