Plan B - Contacts for Tristar disposal
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Plan A - VC10 no longer a practical cost effective option it seems.
Eric please block me as a user so that you dont have to read my thoughts on the matter, or I yours.
Plan B - Tristar
Can anyone who actually knows what the factual current "purchase cost" is of a retired wide body aircraft in the current market let us /me be made aware of. This must be a known quantity given the numbers disposed of around the world. Ball park is fine for now.
Either as is inc a last ferry trip to a European regional airport in a complete format, or as a stripped out airframe once the salvagers have been through it and had the best bits and just left the standing hulk with wings and engine covers. I imagine the bare bones does not have a lot of metal salvage value?
I dont need to know about corrosion issues, sorting landing gear etc etc as I have been made aware of this in previous thread, what I need to know is cost at this stage, the rest can be scoped out once thast has been established.
Appreciate any help even if the figures are via PM if you prefer not to divulge this kind of info on the net.
Also who are the main players in purchasing such assets?. I imagine the current aircraft owners such as the MOD and airlines only deal with known companies, so no doubt I would have to go down the line to the next level of disposal.
I am aware of a few of the specialist salvage companies her in the UK, who are the European players in this market?
This is a serious enquiry but keep it light hearted please, any naysayers keep on moving to the next thread, its better to read positive info
Eric please block me as a user so that you dont have to read my thoughts on the matter, or I yours.
Plan B - Tristar
Can anyone who actually knows what the factual current "purchase cost" is of a retired wide body aircraft in the current market let us /me be made aware of. This must be a known quantity given the numbers disposed of around the world. Ball park is fine for now.
Either as is inc a last ferry trip to a European regional airport in a complete format, or as a stripped out airframe once the salvagers have been through it and had the best bits and just left the standing hulk with wings and engine covers. I imagine the bare bones does not have a lot of metal salvage value?
I dont need to know about corrosion issues, sorting landing gear etc etc as I have been made aware of this in previous thread, what I need to know is cost at this stage, the rest can be scoped out once thast has been established.
Appreciate any help even if the figures are via PM if you prefer not to divulge this kind of info on the net.
Also who are the main players in purchasing such assets?. I imagine the current aircraft owners such as the MOD and airlines only deal with known companies, so no doubt I would have to go down the line to the next level of disposal.
I am aware of a few of the specialist salvage companies her in the UK, who are the European players in this market?
This is a serious enquiry but keep it light hearted please, any naysayers keep on moving to the next thread, its better to read positive info
Of course I won't block you. You provide far too much mirth and hilarity.
Why stop at a Tristar? There are far more 747s lying around unloved and uncared for.
PS - I love the Tristar - one of my favourite airliners.
If you do plan on restoring one, do it in this scheme - which I always thought quite exotic -
Airfix have done a 1/144 Tristar and 747 too if you can't stretch to a real one of either.
Why stop at a Tristar? There are far more 747s lying around unloved and uncared for.
PS - I love the Tristar - one of my favourite airliners.
If you do plan on restoring one, do it in this scheme - which I always thought quite exotic -
Airfix have done a 1/144 Tristar and 747 too if you can't stretch to a real one of either.
Loving the Ugandan one, its cavernous inside, at that price though I guess its still a legit flyer. Salvage seems to be more in the £25 to £40k band depending on what's left to sell on.
Dont quite fancy living in its current location though even if it were a cheapy
I think we have a winner airframe wise though, even the luggage area would make a fantastic garage/workshop space, lift the cars in with an old original scissor lift truck to go with the whole landing pad theme
Dont quite fancy living in its current location though even if it were a cheapy
I think we have a winner airframe wise though, even the luggage area would make a fantastic garage/workshop space, lift the cars in with an old original scissor lift truck to go with the whole landing pad theme
Edited by PAUL500 on Thursday 17th October 13:32
I am literally just 6 numbers away from a lottery win. And when I do, i would build a big garage- bricks, proper heated floor, the works. Big enough for two aircraft.
Then i will buy this:
http://www.jetartaviation.co.uk/2012/10/tornado-f3...
And also their GR1 for my private garage.
Maybe find some dummy armaments too. Been thinking about it for a while. My favourite aircraft
Then i will buy this:
http://www.jetartaviation.co.uk/2012/10/tornado-f3...
And also their GR1 for my private garage.
Maybe find some dummy armaments too. Been thinking about it for a while. My favourite aircraft
Eric, lets stop our peeing up the wall contest, we both love aircraft just both coming at it from different angles and perspectives.
Whether you believe me or not is up to you, but I am very serious in this matter.
If it happens though is very much another matter, I have no concerns about the engineering maintenance side of the airframe once static, but take fully on board the challenges they throw up. Its a cost exercise for now, if the numbers were to add up it would then go onto the next stage, of many many stages and hurdles I have no doubt.
A journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step
Whether you believe me or not is up to you, but I am very serious in this matter.
If it happens though is very much another matter, I have no concerns about the engineering maintenance side of the airframe once static, but take fully on board the challenges they throw up. Its a cost exercise for now, if the numbers were to add up it would then go onto the next stage, of many many stages and hurdles I have no doubt.
A journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step
And that's why I showed John Travolta's set up. He's done it - and actually flies the plane too.
When are the Tristars being retired by the RAF (if not already retired)?
If retired, where are the current airframes?
Are any of them still airworthy?
RAF Tristars were converted to tanker configuration so they will have a lot of additional kit on board that wouldn't be on a standard airliner Tristar.
When are the Tristars being retired by the RAF (if not already retired)?
If retired, where are the current airframes?
Are any of them still airworthy?
RAF Tristars were converted to tanker configuration so they will have a lot of additional kit on board that wouldn't be on a standard airliner Tristar.
PAUL500 said:
<...>Endless whining and moaning interspersed with a lack of knowledge how forums work<...>
Look, rather than whining to anyone who will listen and being a dick to others who proved you wrong how about you just get on and do it, if you are a doer then ring up one of the plane disposal companies in the uk and speak to them, this forum may be helpful but at the end of the day you seem to have trouble conversing with people in an adult manner when they have thoughts different to yours so perhaps it's best you just come back when it's done and prove us wrong?I'd be interested to see how the money side work out.
If an aircraft is still airworthy (for the ferry trip) it's going to cost a bit, possibly more than can be errr......sensible in terms of just writing off for the sake of one flight.
Seriously now, have you considered chopping one up (methodically) then reassembling on site like wot they do with historic buildings? Airworthiness isn't an issue and the structural integrity will need amending anyway, so it's not as if taking an angle grinder to it will set you back at all.
If an aircraft is still airworthy (for the ferry trip) it's going to cost a bit, possibly more than can be errr......sensible in terms of just writing off for the sake of one flight.
Seriously now, have you considered chopping one up (methodically) then reassembling on site like wot they do with historic buildings? Airworthiness isn't an issue and the structural integrity will need amending anyway, so it's not as if taking an angle grinder to it will set you back at all.
PAUL500 said:
I have no concerns about the engineering maintenance side of the airframe once static
I would if I were you. If not looked after it'll die a fast but painful death, taking most of your money with it. Then it'll cost even more to get rid of what's left as you can't just take a fuselage down the household waste recycling centre and leave it with all the dead washing machines.Oh hang on, we told you all this on the other thread........
I want to know where you are going to put this aircraft to turn it into a home. Do you think St Athan or some other airport want people living in old airframes all over the perimeter track? If they did they would be selling off the land or renting it out to people in mobile homes. Or do you own a disused airfield? If so, you would probably not be allowed to use it to land a large multi engined plane on anyway so back to the road transport option, which is going to get chunky in terms of $$$ real quick.
So, you want a £25K wide body airframe delivered to your field in Bridgend (must have a big enough hold to accommodate a road converted F3 car). Crack on.
So, you want a £25K wide body airframe delivered to your field in Bridgend (must have a big enough hold to accommodate a road converted F3 car). Crack on.
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